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Offline CountryslickR

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2010, 01:59:19 AM »
I am in......as long as the clock does the same on bulls.

Im guessing you've never gotten drawn????   :chuckle:

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2010, 07:54:25 AM »
I'm for it.  It's awful thin for whities now  :(  I've taken enough small ones, I want a trophy unit dedicated for them, that would really limit the amount taken, and hopefully bring the population back to a huntable number again.

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2010, 08:02:18 AM »
I think this state should go to 4 points or better on EVERYTHING, Turkeys need to have a 6" beard, and 2" spurs,, ,and you must make 250,000.00 or better to hunt, and have 3 years of law school..

This state sucks..

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2010, 08:03:42 AM »
I think this state should go to 4 points or better on EVERYTHING, Turkeys need to have a 6" beard, and 2" spurs,, ,and you must make 250,000.00 or better to hunt, and have 3 years of law school..

This state sucks..

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 :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :chuckle: I am screwed if that happens  :chuckle:  :chuckle:  :chuckle:

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2010, 08:07:33 AM »
Actually going 3 point and they want to call a special session to pass it for next year.  It should have passed at the last opportunity but there was an over looked error (not enough commissioners present) when it was put to vote.  It was approved but later realized the amount of commissioners voting was inadequate. 
It's a TIKKA thing..., you may not understand.

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2010, 08:11:00 AM »
Genetically speaking, this and the three point rule have increased total buck numbers and devastated mature buck size.  Some spike and two point yearlings have potential, all three and four point yearlings have great potential.  Check the age distrobution on the harvest, those young three and four point boys die the forks and the spikes live by rule.

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2010, 08:33:48 AM »
I think it is a good thing. The deer have really taken a hit in the last 3 years. I know at my house we had over 3 feet of snow on the ground two winters ago, the deer had no where to go and nothing to eat. Most of the smaller 3 points killed are younger deer. If it goes to 4 point min, we will be seeing a lot more mature deer in the next couple of years. But it does suck for the guys that rely on getting a deer every year for the winters meat, because the harvest rate will be lower for a few years.

Sounds like a habitat issue more than a harvest issue.  I am not familiar with the area but if they are going hungry they need more food or fewer deer....   
There is no issue with their habitat, they have plenty of habitat. What I was saying is in the NE part of the state we have had 2 out of the last 3 winters that were BAD. Over 3 feet of snow on the ground, whitetails are not browsers like mule deer, They will browse for survival, but if you have 3 or more feet of snow in the lowlands the deer cant even get around to try to survive.
WDWF needs to get a clue before it's to late!!!

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2010, 08:37:32 AM »
love it!! has nothing to do with seeing anything now, just a couple years and u will see the benefit and lots of branch antlered bucks. I just dont get the guys who bitch about it and are blasting spikes and forks, go get a damn doe tag if thats what your shooting, its quite obvious your not hunting for the challenge of the hunt.

Really! Some of use hunt for the challenge and for the meat you a$$hat >:( If all you hunt for is the trophy maybe you should go find a fence to hunt behind :bash:
Smoke em when ya see em!

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2010, 08:59:14 AM »
The point is that we all would like a state record buck! however if a guy is hunting to feed his family and on the final weekend he has not been able to get that record buck he will take a spike or fork horn. For someone to say that a guy is not a hunter that takes a spike or forkhorn is way out of line IMO.

As far as the deer and elk count in the NE I agree it is from two sources. One the last two late heavy snow falls and the ever increasing Wolf population. If we go Four point or better in the corner I agree this state will never revert back. Is this necessary now? probably but will it need to stay for ever? only if the Wolf stays :twocents:
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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2010, 09:01:07 AM »
I think what he is saying is that the people that want to take away the ability for others to kill a deer of any size because they are more focused on B&C numbers and having big mounts aren't really looking for challenges.  If someone wants a 'big' deer solely because it is big, there are places that cater to that.  Yes, there are people out there that like challenging hunts AND big animals.  But some people don't need a minimum (150+") deer to make them happy.

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2010, 09:05:39 AM »
Okay, let's make 101 and 204 4 point or better and spike whitetail only, eliminate doe permits and put gates on all forrest service roads within those units.  Leave some of the other units to the "meat hunters".  I added spike whities into the mix to appease some of the "meat" hunters and because research has shown that on average, a first year spike usually will not have the genetics to grow to true "trophy" potential.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2010, 09:30:06 AM by PolarBear »

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2010, 09:10:52 AM »
I think the WDFW needs to manage it a little better, actually look at what is there, and make some corrections every 3 years, maybe 4pt or better for 3 yrs, then back to any buck.  Don't do it to the whole NE, switch it up a little.

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2010, 09:28:03 AM »
I think this state should go to 4 points or better on EVERYTHING, Turkeys need to have a 6" beard, and 2" spurs,, ,and you must make 250,000.00 or better to hunt, and have 3 years of law school..

This state sucks..

Hunterman(Tony)

I agree Tony this is the way its going and still this isn't management it has to do with money....

Hey I know require a percentage of your annual income in the form of a surcharge to use public lands yeah there you go...except continue to allow illegals to rape and pillage and plunder the resource.... then they could build even more tunnels and feed more aliens and house more illegals in our prisons....yeah thats what they should do  :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2010, 09:49:14 AM »
I don't think a point restriction will solve the issue at hand.  We need to limit opportunity and slim the cougar, bear, and coyote population.  That will help far more than a point restriction.  I can see point restriction resulting in honest mistakes that will be issued a ticket.  Won't affect me as much being a archery hunter, but I think those that still hunt with a rifle and encounter a buck in the brush won't have time to count.  Maybe a fork or better.  That is an easy one to be able to identify.  

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Re: Possible changes to deer hunting in 2011
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2010, 09:54:27 AM »
love it!! has nothing to do with seeing anything now, just a couple years and u will see the benefit and lots of branch antlered bucks. I just dont get the guys who bitch about it and are blasting spikes and forks, go get a damn doe tag if thats what your shooting, its quite obvious your not hunting for the challenge of the hunt.

The size of the buck has little to do with the challenge of the hunt..  and by the way, who the hell do you think you are to judge someone who wants some meat in the freezer?  :mor:

 


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