which 4x4 to choose

[teanawayslayer]

I would look at toyota.  Most reliable rigs I have ever owned.  Every time I say I won't buy anything but toyota and end up buying something else.  I always have had problems.  The best factory 4 wheel drive.  that's my 

[DRobnsn]

I would look at toyota.  Most reliable rigs I have ever owned.  Every time I say I won't buy anything but toyota and end up buying something else.  I always have had problems.  The best factory 4 wheel drive.  that's my 

I will put in a vote for the Toyota, I use to trash talk them. But then I bought one and after driving it to work and in just about any condition this state has to offer I'll never bash them again. Unbelievably reliable and off road they ride and handle amazing.

[mulehunter]

Toyota 4wheeler is my one top choice. I have always had toyota since i was high school. Love it.

Mulehunter

[addicted]

jeep, toyotas are usually out of my price range and they have IFS.

what engine is in the jeep? 4.0 is one of the best engines out there for reliability.

i guess it depends on what you'll use if for. spilling gasoline in the back of an SUV sucks, but having the extra warm room is awesome. I camp in the back of my Cherokee and i camped in the back of my Pathfinder.

If your going to lift it and mod it i would go with the jeep hands down.

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[Wanttohuntmore]

In my family, we've had 3 cherokee's, 1 with a 2.5 ltr 4 cyl, that sucked, and 2 with 4 ltr sixes.  All jeeps put over 200k on the odometer, and could probably go to 300k.  Only probs, were brakes were weak, and waterpumps would go bad (usually from someone overtightening the serpentine belt).  I've had Toy's since then, and can't say they are much better, but for a hunting rig I'd stick with a jeep with a straight axle front.  However, I'll never not have a truck!

[jeepasaurusrex]

I am partial to Jeeps. 

I currently own a 1942 GPW (WW2 Flat Fender), 1982 CJ7, and a 1994 Grand Cherokee. I've owned a 57 CJ5, 1986 Cherokee, 2000 Cherokee, and a 2001 Cherokee. The 4.0 is hands down the best Jeep motor on the market. They run forever. The axles are OK for tires up to 32". Any bigger and you may want to upgrade. The front Dana 30 is OK, but the rear 8¼ or Dana 35 is the weak link. A ford Exploder 8.8 is a easy swap. Some Dana 44 rear axles can be found under Cherokees with towing packages. Slap a set of 30x9.5 mud terrain tires on it and you will basically go anywhere you want. Bolt a winch to the front, they have tons of uses besides getting yourself unstuck (game recovery.) The aftermarket support is awesome for Jeeps. You can get just about anything you want for them. 

[Bean Counter]

I would look at toyota.  Most reliable rigs I have ever owned.  Every time I say I won't buy anything but toyota and end up buying something else.  I always have had problems.  The best factory 4 wheel drive.  that's my 

 

[Alchase]

Buy the Jeep, i had an 87 Comanche that I put 208,000 on. I had a 89 Cherokee LTD, all leather, electric start, the works, added a 5 in lift, rockrails, ARB lockers and a few other mods. We use to drive to Moab Utah, do some serious 4x4ing then drive home all in comfort. Yes they have their problems, but most are very well documented and easy to fix. For those that think the Toyota's are the best 4x4 stock, we ran stock XJ's all over Moab and the "stock" Toyota's would have a very hard time keeping up.
Why? One word that most 4x4 manufacturers including Toyota forget "articulation" you can't have traction when your wheels are off the ground. The Cherokee has some of the best articulation of any 4x4 ever made, stock.
This is not meant to bad mouth Toyota's, like Jeeps they are very good off road with the right modifications and you can't argue with the Toyota dependability either.

[DRobnsn]

Buy the Jeep, i had an 87 Comanche that I put 208,000 on. I had a 89 Cherokee LTD, all leather, electric start, the works, added a 5 in lift, rockrails, ARB lockers and a few other mods. We use to drive to Moab Utah, do some serious 4x4ing then drive home all in comfort. Yes they have their problems, but most are very well documented and easy to fix. For those that think the Toyota's are the best 4x4 stock, we ran stock XJ's all over Moab and the "stock" Toyota's would have a very hard time keeping up.
Why? One word that most 4x4 manufacturers including Toyota forget "articulation" you can't have traction when your wheels are off the ground. The Cherokee has some of the best articulation of any 4x4 ever made, stock.
This is not meant to bad mouth Toyota's, like Jeeps they are very good off road with the right modifications and you can't argue with the Toyota dependability either.

I see where you are coming from with articulation and the lack of straight axle in the front of the Yota. That is easy to fix if your gonna be modding something anyway which I'm not sure he want's to do but I know it can be done in a cost effective manner and flex with the best of them. People do Straight axle swaps in them all the time and there are tons of vendors with kits for sale.

Here is my question what about stock ride and handle in gravel/potholed and paved roads. I have ridden/driven quite a few xj's on and off road same with Toyota's and I think the Toyota's ride is waaay better than the jeep. Not to mention every jeep I have rode in had 200k plus on them everything in it squeaked and rattled. My 200k Toyota doesn't rattle or squeak, neither did my 240k Toyota. 

[GooNiEs]

JEEP!!!!!!.... i been thinking about picking up an older xj... 2 door cherokee.....  i have a yj wrangler and love it..... 

[danceswitharrows]

I would look at toyota.  Most reliable rigs I have ever owned.  Every time I say I won't buy anything but toyota and end up buying something else.  I always have had problems.  The best factory 4 wheel drive.  that's my 

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[NWTFhunter]

Jeep ! My cherokee sport has 236k and you can't beat the 4.0 !

[alecvg]

Not a huge fan of either, but out of those, I would go with the cherekee. 

[cohoho]

Jeep ! My cherokee sport has 236k and you can't beat the 4.0 !

Worst thing I did was sell my Cherokee..  4.0 in a with 249k..  Bought it new in 1994 and only did the brakes and a iginition control in 8 years of owning it..  Had a 3.5 lift with 33" went anywhere I wanted to go...

[addicted]

i believe huntwa has spoken. a landslide vote for the jeep.

another idea for the jeep is to put a Golen 4.6liter engine in it