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As wth every big buck there is controversy. Cartwright told me the buck was running and toppled, breaking the antler in the fall. I have heard other people say that he accidentally hit it at night on the highway or that he poached it, and even that someone else poached it. But until I see some kind of proof, I am going to believe Cartright. I had the mount hanging in my house for 6 months and never noticed any marks or indication that the rack had any contact with a car. Other than the break which was still obvious, I saw no noticeable marks indicating it had been hit by a car. When some reliable evidence surfaces, then I will beleive the other stories, until then I think it is unfair to say the buck was poached or that Cartwright didn't take it as he said. I want to hope the buck was taken legally.I remember when Adams killed the two big bulls back to back in MT, lots of people were convinced he was breaking the law, but everything I have heard locally in Montana indicates he was completely legal and too many people are just jealous.
Quote from: bearpaw on November 24, 2010, 01:19:23 AMAs wth every big buck there is controversy. Cartwright told me the buck was running and toppled, breaking the antler in the fall. I have heard other people say that he accidentally hit it at night on the highway or that he poached it, and even that someone else poached it. But until I see some kind of proof, I am going to believe Cartright. I had the mount hanging in my house for 6 months and never noticed any marks or indication that the rack had any contact with a car. Other than the break which was still obvious, I saw no noticeable marks indicating it had been hit by a car. When some reliable evidence surfaces, then I will beleive the other stories, until then I think it is unfair to say the buck was poached or that Cartwright didn't take it as he said. I want to hope the buck was taken legally.I remember when Adams killed the two big bulls back to back in MT, lots of people were convinced he was breaking the law, but everything I have heard locally in Montana indicates he was completely legal and too many people are just jealous.Dale, You are absolutely 100% right again. Controversy always surrounds big animals. The rack was also examined by one of the head scorers at B&C. I spoke with Mr. Carwright at length and I see no reason to doubt his story. It is unfortunate that such rumors nearly always surround bucks of a lifetime. I have heard from some hunters that it ruins the entire experience. There are cases were people have experienced full investigations only to be found not guilty.
I'm not sure that it"s always bad intentions that causes these rumours. I think one guy may say something like "He must have shot it at night" then the next guys says " I was told he shot it at night", the next guys says "Everyone knows he shot it at night". No one had bad intentions, but the suspicious nature of people mixed with possibly a little jealousy has a way of developing ficticious stories from out of nowhere.Just look at the comments that hit this forum regarding many big animal photos that are posted. On Another Note:I am of the opinion that when it is determined an animal was poached, it should remain in the books but listed as poached, without the poachers name. Records should show all the big animals and area they came from, don't let the animal be lost from history because some jerk poached it. The animal and the geographic area deserve to be recognized.
Quote from: DBHAWTHORNE on November 24, 2010, 07:52:51 AMQuote from: bearpaw on November 24, 2010, 01:19:23 AMAs wth every big buck there is controversy. Cartwright told me the buck was running and toppled, breaking the antler in the fall. I have heard other people say that he accidentally hit it at night on the highway or that he poached it, and even that someone else poached it. But until I see some kind of proof, I am going to believe Cartright. I had the mount hanging in my house for 6 months and never noticed any marks or indication that the rack had any contact with a car. Other than the break which was still obvious, I saw no noticeable marks indicating it had been hit by a car. When some reliable evidence surfaces, then I will beleive the other stories, until then I think it is unfair to say the buck was poached or that Cartwright didn't take it as he said. I want to hope the buck was taken legally.I remember when Adams killed the two big bulls back to back in MT, lots of people were convinced he was breaking the law, but everything I have heard locally in Montana indicates he was completely legal and too many people are just jealous.Dale, You are absolutely 100% right again. Controversy always surrounds big animals. The rack was also examined by one of the head scorers at B&C. I spoke with Mr. Carwright at length and I see no reason to doubt his story. It is unfortunate that such rumors nearly always surround bucks of a lifetime. I have heard from some hunters that it ruins the entire experience. There are cases were people have experienced full investigations only to be found not guilty.There was a story a few years ago where awhere a guy had his deer stolen by the game dept. Many slanderous stories later and around 2 years later, he got his buck back (minus the cape).Forget the magazine I saw the story in. Seems like it ran in two or three....
Could careless about the real story but I'am curious how this buck was killed in September of 09 and is already been scored by B&C, mounted, and on the circuit?Stevens County holds some serious genetics! Some of the biggest sheds we have found have come from that county.Matter of fact, much larger then the ones being held up!
Not saying that it was really poached but just a story I heard. You guys are right that no matter what big animal gets shot that there always seems to be things said about it. This is a huge buck and it is a shame that it can't be in the b&c book.
WOW! Way to step up elkslayer. I had NO IDEA they changed that rule. That is a MAJOR change.
