my first gun

[Rawr0192]

i am going to get my first gun soon for big game hunting. i was thinking a .270 or .308 (Possibly a savage?)

[chester]

270 savage would be a good combo.

[Rawr0192]

thanks for the advice. the ammo is prbly cheaper for the 270 also. im thinking about this: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Centerfire-Rifles/Bolt-Action|/pc/104792580/c/105522480/sc/105523380/Savage-Edge-Bolt-Action-Centerfire-Rifles-with-Scope/753240.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-centerfire-rifles-bolt-action%2F_%2FN-1102332%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_105523380

[dscubame]

My first gun was a 30-06 savage.  I would suggest a 30-06 for first rifle.

[Rawr0192]

i want something with a little 'kick' to it. and by a little i mean alot lol. i would enjoy the larger cal. guns because my body build is fairly large and i am physically prepared for them.

[chester]

You dont need a large caliber. my first rifle was a savage 270. never came across anything i couldnt kill with it. my second was a Ruger M77 in 30-06. just get what you can shoot comfortably. my deer this year was taken with a 270. shot placement is key. either of those calibers can cleanly take anything in this state. and ammo is relatively cheap especially compared to the magnum calibers. you can shoot more for less money and be more comfortable out in the field.

[MikeWalking]

Want a little kick'huh?

Go with a 45-70 and some Buffalo Bore 405gr SP's 

[dscubame]

Want a little kick'huh?

Go with a 45-70 and some Buffalo Bore 405gr SP's 

LOL.

[rock]

lightweight .338 no kick at all  

[Rawr0192]

lightweight .338 no kick at all  

verrrrryyyyy funny. actually i did laugh at this but yeah totally

Want a little kick'huh?

Go with a 45-70 and some Buffalo Bore 405gr SP's 

yeah, no. i dont think their even are buffalo in Washington lol

[WAHIKER]

Hi Rawr,

If you are only 13 assuming you haven't it would probably be best to go out and shoot a few of these guns with a lot of kick before you purchase one.  Even if you are big for your age you need to make sure you are still comfortable with their weight and recoil.   

[Rawr0192]

Hi Rawr,

If you are only 13 assuming you haven't it would probably be best to go out and shoot a few of these guns with a lot of kick before you purchase one.  Even if you are big for your age you need to make sure you are still comfortable with their weight and recoil.   

i have shot these guns before and im completely fine with the .270 but i have not shot the .308 so your very wise. i will go and try before i buy thank you for reminding me about that.

[Crisptrigr]

R,
If you can properly handle the recoil of a 270Win. you'll have no problem with a 308 or 30-06 as long as bullets weights are similiar.
When rifle weights and bullet weights are similiar of these calibers there is little to no difference in felt recoil.
How well the rifle fits your build will be a more significant issue.

[dscubame]

Red Ryder.  .177 caliber and 350 fps.

[low97ram]

bought the savage edge .270 (camo) on veteran's day. shoots very well, scope is what it is...could be better but serves a purpose.  very straight (flat) shooter, but most 270's are anyways. 

pete

[Rawr0192]

bought the savage edge .270 (camo) on veteran's day. shoots very well, scope is what it is...could be better but serves a purpose.  very straight (flat) shooter, but most 270's are anyways. 

pete

Thanks pete. does the scope work fine once you tighten it? also if i enjoy the gun enough i will find the money to buy a new scope.

[low97ram]

ya...tighten it first...then bore sight it.  read somewhere, or was told by some yahoo, that the gun/scope was already "rough sighted" to 20 yrds.  NOT...  bore sight it, sight it in yourself and you'll be fine.

good idea to get another scope later on...my idea too.

[Rawr0192]

ya...tighten it first...then bore sight it.  read somewhere, or was told by some yahoo, that the gun/scope was already "rough sighted" to 20 yrds.  NOT...  bore sight it, sight it in yourself and you'll be fine.

good idea to get another scope later on...my idea too.

Yeah. i have always wondered what it would be like to hunt coyotes in eastern washington with a night vision scope. that would be pretty insane.

[chester]

just make sure you have a night vision scope off your gun when your hunting deer/bear/elk/grouse.   

[Rawr0192]

just make sure you have a night vision scope off your gun when your hunting deer/bear/elk/grouse.   

Really? what if your hunting them at night?

[chester]

lol....

fair enough.

[Rawr0192]

lol....

fair enough.

lol has anyone ever told you to think before you post?

[Ben2Cold]

both are good calibers I shoot a 308 and a 7mm RUM the 308 is pleasant to shoot the 7 is not so pleasant(its hard to ignore the fact when you sqeeze the trigger your going to get punched in the shoulder) I would recomend the 308 (shorter action lighter rifle ) at 300yrds the 270 only shoots a couple of inches higher ( flatter trjectory).

[yorketransport]

I'm a big fan of Savage firearms. I have 6 actions, 12 barrels and 7 stocks. Plus the Savage 99 in 300 Savage. I would recommend the Stevens Model 200 as an entry level gun. It will give you more options in aftermarket parts than an Axis (the new name for the Edge) will. The Stevens is just a stripped down Savage, so it will take the same stocks and upgraded parts as a comparable Savage action. If you're a big guy you may need to get a stock with a longer than average length of pull, so aftermarket support could be an important consideration.

As far as "big" calibers go, they don't start getting big until you're shooting bullets over 225gr at more than 2800. The 45-70 doesn't qualify as a big gun in any rifle. Put it in a handgun, and now we're talking! Don't start out with the big stuff though. the 270 and 308 would be great choices. work your way up to the bigger stuff unless you've been shooting the 308/30-06 class rounds for a while. Big guns take a lot of practice to get good with, and they certainly aren't cheap to shoot.

Andrew

[Rawr0192]

I'm a big fan of Savage firearms. I have 6 actions, 12 barrels and 7 stocks. Plus the Savage 99 in 300 Savage. I would recommend the Stevens Model 200 as an entry level gun. It will give you more options in aftermarket parts than an Axis (the new name for the Edge) will. The Stevens is just a stripped down Savage, so it will take the same stocks and upgraded parts as a comparable Savage action. If you're a big guy you may need to get a stock with a longer than average length of pull, so aftermarket support could be an important consideration.

As far as "big" calibers go, they don't start getting big until you're shooting bullets over 225gr at more than 2800. The 45-70 doesn't qualify as a big gun in any rifle. Put it in a handgun, and now we're talking! Don't start out with the big stuff though. the 270 and 308 would be great choices. work your way up to the bigger stuff unless you've been shooting the 308/30-06 class rounds for a while. Big guns take a lot of practice to get good with, and they certainly aren't cheap to shoot.

Andrew

Amen to that 
a minigun is over a million to buy and your wasting hundreds to thousands a minute on ammo. so go for it bill gates