Coup de Grace

[Thenewguy]

If the arrow didn;t go though, wiggle it around a bit? This is actually a good topic. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot it again, but 20 bucks isn't as important to me as a clean a kill as possible

[ribka]

I have spined 3 wt  deer from a treestand in my years of bowhunting. Not a very good experience. I always put a follow-up broadhead in their heart and they expired quickly. Read an article once comparing cutting the windpipe vs a broadhead, knife in the heart of  wounded deer, elk. Physiologically speaking the author, a Vet,  suggested a knife or broadhead was a quicker, safer  and more humane way to dispatch wounded game.  

Worried about cost of a broadhead use your knife

[npaull]

Total no-brainer. Any deer I shoot with my bow gets as many broadheads as I can put into it as long as it's still moving, unless it's obviously instants away from expiring (ie clearly shot in the heart). Blows my mind that anyone would think to do any different...

[addicted]

German's got some things right.

If an animal is Sick, injured, or suffering in any way you as a hunter are to put it down reguardless of season, caliber, or any other prohibiting laws.

[h20hunter]

I would completely disagree with the above statement when it comes to hunting specific seasons and specific equipement. It is legal for me to carry my .38 for protection but completely not legal to use it to dispatch a wounded game animal if I'm hunting archery. That is a ticket waiting to happen.

[724wd]

here's the scenario...

small WT doe, stood up when the landowner started the plow truck.  She didnt know i was there.  i shot and though i missed.  first shot a hit but i didn't know it at the time. she ran off and i circled the thicket to head her off and hopefully get another shot.  i saw her bed down 80 yards away and though she just didn't want to wander in the blizzard.  so i snuck up to 20 yards and shot her in her bed.  hit hard.  incapacitated, but still breathing.  want to end the suffering as quickly as possible.  not really concerned with cost of arrows, but with the quickest way to dispatch the animal.  i did stick her again from point blank, through the lungs (twice  ), but she wasn't dying fast enough, so i knifed her throat.  just seemed a bit much,  you know   ?  had i waited a couple of minutes, she'd have expired, but i wanted to end it as quick as possible.  got some bloodshot meat from the coup de grace.  saw she was leaving a blood trail and saw my first shot was a hit, but i'm still not sure where.  there were too many holes in her to tell.     i though i missed high, but when i back tracked to find my arrow, it had good blood.

SOOOO.... if i'd have let her lay after the second shot, she would have died, but who knows how long?     i didn't want to make her suffer any longer than necessary, but the first finishing shot didn't get it done, and neither did the second one, leading to the knife.  that's why i was wondering if you guy go for a head shot like a rifle?

[Bean Counter]

  Bean you know that's not legal....no field tips    

My bad guys--follow the law. I haven't had this problem yet bc I have yet to kill any deer/elk with my bow yet 

[h20hunter]

Been there this year in fact. First archery hunt hit back behind liver but not in the gut. She bedded nearby. We waited and waited, eventually got up on her and bumped her. Got back on her about 5 min later and got to 17 yards. Put a Muzzy in her neck, then cut her throat to speed things up. Sucks to end it that way but that was the fastest combo of things I could do. Sorry you had to do the same but don't think I would have done it differently. Bottom line you finished the job in the most timely manner available while ensuring you didn't lose the animal.

[tlbradford]

I would never shove another arrow in with my hand.  What if your grip slips down the shaft?  I wouldn't try knifing it by hand either, even with a hilt, these are strong animals.  If they are hit hard enough for you to do anything by hand, then cut the throat.  Otherwise, shoot another arrow into the heart, if you want to save the cape.  This is bowhunting it may take another minute or two for the animal to die.  That is the nature of a blade wound.  Cutting an artery deprives vitals of blood, it takes time to bleed out or have organ failure.  Cutting the windpipe asphyxiates an animal, this also takes a little time.  Without being able to but a bullet in the brain, there is nothing else you can do to kill it faster.

I think it is the movie "Diehard" where he drops a unit heater on a guy and his legs are twitching.  Someone says, "can you make it stop?"  and the guy says, "What do you want me to do, kill him again?"  To me that applies to this situation.

You don't have to like it, but that is the way it works when killing an animal while bowhunting.

[carpsniperg2]

"I think it is the movie "Diehard" where he drops a unit heater on a guy and his legs are twitching.  Someone says, "can you make it stop?"  and the guy says, "What do you want me to do, kill him again?"  To me that applies to this situation."

The movie was: the rock a great movie, i am also a big fan of the diehard movies

now back the the topic: I myself would shoot another arrow into the animal myself. I agree that most wardens, probably would not write a ticket for cutting the throat. They would have no way of knowing, that the animal was still alive when you did it. You could shoot a animal in the base of the skull with a arrow. for the coup de grace. that way the arrow is in a place you would not notice, if mounted. Or just shoot them in the vitals and let them bleed out.

[Bob33]

You could always put a picture of one of our Senators in front of the deer's face.  That ought to put an end to it..

[carpsniperg2]

 

[Bob33]

The only problem with the photos might be PETA - they would probably consider it cruel and inhumane treatment of animals.

[sakoshooter]

Another broadhead tipped arrow to the heart/lung area. I really hate to see a magnificent animal suffer even though we're talking only minutes sometimes.

[addicted]

I would completely disagree with the above statement when it comes to hunting specific seasons and specific equipement. It is legal for me to carry my .38 for protection but completely not legal to use it to dispatch a wounded game animal if I'm hunting archery. That is a ticket waiting to happen.

talking about german law, as much as i would like somethinglikethis to be adopted in the states, it is not my take along rule book.