50 cal. deer hunting......WTF!!!

[steve04]

Shooting deer at 1 mile with 50 cal match rounds! +more!

[bankwalker]

i dont even know what to say about that. it almost pisses me off.

[Woodchuck]

Looks like a good group of folks to stay away from, did you see how much those skipped?

[steve04]

can't believe people actually do S@$ T like that. what a disgrace!!!

[boonerboy]

no wonder there are so many antis. IDIOTS

[Lowedog]

I hate to say this but some people shouldn't be allowed to own firearms!

[KLRKeith]

Woahh crazy.  So when is it a overkill caliber and too far?  This certainly is not hunting but more shooting fish in a barrel kinda thing. This kinda reminds me of that video hunting junk they were doing down in TX.

[rasbo]

whats sad is a whole hella lot people think its really cool..the whole video industry is destroying hunting tradition,everyone has to get that 10 minutes of fame,or sell something..

[Smokepole]

Well.... I don't feel guilty any more for missing a few times.  I don't like guys like that.

[danceswitharrows]

 

[509er]

*censored*es!!!

[Coastal_native]

At first I thought...maybe this video shouldn't be posted on this forum...but maybe its better for people to see some of the comments that this is not acceptable to the hunting community.  It may be a hobby for some people, but its definately not hunting and I hope that's not how the general public views us hunters.

[C-Money]

Wow. How sad. Like said already, Some people really should not own firearms. That was not cool in my eyes.

[longrange7mm]

*censored*s gives a bad name to the guys that put in countless hours shooting long range to make that one ethical shot!!!!

[Machias]

That is just plain SAD!  

[blacktaill]

That is rediculas !! Giving us a bad image with that crap! 

[bornforhorns]

First thing that comes to my mind is SAFETY!  They should have their licenses taken away, Judging by their shooting I'm guessing they have no idea what maybe behind those deer. 

I've said it before, anything over 300 yards is not hunting...you haven't fooled any animal.  Those who archery hunt would say 50 yds and I've done that too.  Personally 200yds or less with a Modern Firearm on deer I don't feel bad about and more importantly I feel responsible.

40 yds with a bow for me is stretching it.

[Pathfinder101]

*censored*s gives a bad name to the guys that put in countless hours shooting long range to make that one ethical shot!!!!

THose *censored*s give the rest of us *censored*s a bad name...

[gaddy]

that is not hunting and in no way should it be compaired to hunting.

[MikeWalking]

1000yd gut shot...

Just the BS Murray and her ilk love to get a hold of...

[724wd]

if they were competent shots and not missing so much, i've got no problem with it.  but to just spray lead downrange - even down LONG range - doesnt do much for me.  the fact that they use tracers despite their poor accuracy is dumb.  

i'm very impressed by those that take the time required on the range and can make ultra long shots.  these guys dont qualify.

[Boss .300 winmag]

Simply amazingly stupid!

[ribka]

Too bad the state where they did this cannot revoke their licenses until they pass a basic Hunter's Safety course. Most 10 year olds that take a Hunter's Safety course can tell these pos's are violating almost every tenant of basic hunting safety practices. And I didn't know tracer rounds were legal for big game hunting.

I see more and more states are making moves to ban the 50 BMG's. After seeing this video they have some good propaganda.

[bigpaw 77]

whats sad is a whole hella lot people think its really cool..the whole video industry is destroying hunting tradition,everyone has to get that 10 minutes of fame,or sell something..

I couldnt agree more, This pisses me off and then I hear guys (not guys on this forum) say how cool this crap is, and of course when some *censored* sees a video like this they think they can kill a deer at 1000 yards All it does is make us ethical hunters look bad to those who don't know any better.

[mkcj]

I was laughing most of the time what a stupid group of people right there! I would be embarrassed to show my face on that video.

[JimmyHoffa]

Too many people out there believing that they can do what they see on TV and in movies.  There are a few people that are actually proficient with the long range equipment, so I would hate to see them lose their niche due to clowns like these.  

[Deep Forks]

This is absolutely ridiculous, using live animals as practice targets.    The first deer shot was hit in the rear-end, got up and run off.  They need their
f---ing ass kicked which might push their brain back up where it belongs or at least farther inside their torso so they're not sitting on it for such long periods of time.    I don't see the fun in this at all.  There's a lot of difference between the hunters that are proficient in long range shots and these *censored*s.  

[Jason]

F***ing idiots  

[colockumelk]

if they were competent shots and not missing so much, i've got no problem with it.  but to just spray lead downrange - even down LONG range - doesnt do much for me.  the fact that they use tracers despite their poor accuracy is dumb.  

*Disclaimer* I am not defending them.

These guys are not bad shots and the tracers are not any more innaccurate than a normal round.  Everyone thinks that the .50cal BMG is so accurate.  It's not true.  M-24 7.62mm (.308) sniper rifle is FAR more accurate than the M-107 .50cal sniper rifle.  The .308 round has a sub 1" MOA where the .50cal has a 3.5" MOA.  You are not going to get a good group at 1,000 meters with the .50cal compared to the .308 no matter how hard you try.   So its not so much that these guys suck its just they are shooting a weapon and a round that was not meant or designed for long range precision shooting. 

I would like to bring up another myth that the .50cal shoots like a lazer out to two miles or whatever the distance is.  If you notice those tracer rounds all arced down at an extremely high angle.  Almost like someone was shooting at them from the air.  I don't know the drop of a .50cal at 1,000 meters but for those wannabe snipers out there that think that they know how high to hold at long ranges just because they have shot out to 300meters.  THink about this.  For an M-24 sniper rifle that has its zero set at 300meters.  At 1,000 meters that round will drop 360 inches aka 30 feet. 

In Iraq our snipers HATED the M-107 .50cal.  They only used it if they were in a static position and the commander forced them to use it.  If given the choice they went out with the M-24 bolt action 7.62mm/.308.   And could and did smoke dudes in the face at 1000meters.  But, they were properly trained.  Not every azzhat can do this.  And no azzhat can do this stuff without training. 

[Hunt Blacktail]

I have 2 kids in the military! Have nothing but respect for those who protect our freedom!!! But, this is far from hunting!!! Disrespectful to anyone that carries a gun or bow!!! If you enjoy it far be it from me to judge you but, I was raised to respect the animals we hunt??? Could you actually have a smile on your face and be proud of this S_ _ t!!! I wouldn't want my picture taken!!! Things sure have changed!!!

[BLKBEARKLR]

WTF, not my cup of tea, and the other thing bad other than using live deer as targets is they also blew up the car and contaminated the fricken water system. Idiots like that should be the one at a mile running back and forth.

But having fired alot of tracers in my life time, a lot is to be learned also from this video, it does not have to be a 50 cal for your bullet to go out of control. They all do, so always be aware of the suroundings when you are shooting. You miss and there is no telling where that bullet will go. I have been on KD ranges before and had the bulles go skipping down the line.


Joe

[724wd]

These guys are not bad shots and the tracers are not any more innaccurate than a normal round.  Everyone thinks that the .50cal BMG is so accurate.  It's not true.  M-24 7.62mm (.308) sniper rifle is FAR more accurate than the M-107 .50cal sniper rifle.  The .308 round has a sub 1" MOA where the .50cal has a 3.5" MOA.  You are not going to get a good group at 1,000 meters with the .50cal compared to the .308 no matter how hard you try.   So its not so much that these guys suck its just they are shooting a weapon and a round that was not meant or designed for long range precision shooting. 

i watched it with the sound off... they're shooting an M-107?  the rifle shown at the end of the video appeared to me (in the 1 second i saw it) to be more along the lines of a custom job.  i was under the impression the .50BMG was a fairly accurate round when fired from a reliable platform.  and I for one am aware of the trajectory of the .50, as even though it's an awesome piece, it's not immune to the forces of gravity! Unlike my beloved .300 win MAG!  flat out to 600!   )  thanks for weighing in with more real world experience than i have.  closest i've been to a .50 is ogling them when i was young and dumb!  

and i was always told that tracers were less accurate than standard rounds.  again, i've not had any real experience with them, just secondhand 'knowledge.'

heath

[JimmyHoffa]

724,  the .50 BMG is an accurate round when using the proper ammuntion.  Military ammo for automatic rifles is not made to the same tolerances as match ammo, especially the old ball ammo.  If I remember correctly the 7.62mm light machine gun had an expected hit rate of 2%...yeah, 4 rounds out of each 200 rd belt would actually hit.  You can get .50 BMG match bullets with BC close to 1.2 now.  Higher? 
Most people that attempt to shoot long range have one common enemy----wind drift.  The variance in accuracy due to that factor alone tends to be the biggest obstacle.  The .50 BMG is still prone to wind drift, but less than the lighter calibers...even the calibers with flatter trajectories.  The ability to compensate for wind is one of the main things making the rifle so popular.  Ammunition and the rifle determine the accuracy, so yes there are 1 MOA .50 BMGs.  It is basically a scaled up .30-06.  The AR-50 is sold as a 1 MOA, but is capable of smaller groups.
Another misconception is that it will 'vaporize' things when it hits.  It usually just passes through with little damage.  When shooting pumpkins, I have to cut a small hole and fill them with water, then plug the hole....to get them to explode.  The .223 puts on a better show with pumpkins.

[canyelk48]

Idiots!  That kind of crap should be illegal!!!!!!!!!!   I'd like to see one of them standing out there dodging tracers! 

[robescc]

That looks like Winthrop on opening morning 

[Thenewguy]

the only good thing about this video, is those jerks spent about 8 rounds (60 bucks ish?) to miss a doe 8 times...

[TheHunt]

The only item that interested me was how much bullet ricochet there really is.  When they were shooting off the water it was really skipping.  I have never shot tracers or shot on water.  But it was interesting to actually see it in a video.  You learn this but you never get to see it.

[PolarBear]

*censored*bags! 

[high country]

I am not gonna beat on them for shooting at deer, some areas have problems and need to cull deer, to each his own, the first shooter did better then a lot of guys at 200yds......but to publish such a video is in extremly poor taste and to shoot at water is beyond stupid.......let alone blow a car up in water. I can't count the bad effects of that move, aside from errant rounds down range.....lead left in the water, oil, gas, antifreeze, misc garbage....etc.

took a true *censored* to put that one on the net.

[6.5swede]

I couldn't even make it through the whole video.....pretty pathetic and uncalled for

[chrisb]

Did they shoot deer... yes
Is it hunting...NO
would blowing up cars with a rifle be fun.... hell yeah

[Woodchuck]

In a river? or any other body of water? seems like a bad idea to me 

[carpsniperg2]

724,  the .50 BMG is an accurate round when using the proper ammuntion.  Military ammo for automatic rifles is not made to the same tolerances as match ammo, especially the old ball ammo.  If I remember correctly the 7.62mm light machine gun had an expected hit rate of 2%...yeah, 4 rounds out of each 200 rd belt would actually hit.  You can get .50 BMG match bullets with BC close to 1.2 now.  Higher? 
Most people that attempt to shoot long range have one common enemy----wind drift.  The variance in accuracy due to that factor alone tends to be the biggest obstacle.  The .50 BMG is still prone to wind drift, but less than the lighter calibers...even the calibers with flatter trajectories.  The ability to compensate for wind is one of the main things making the rifle so popular.  Ammunition and the rifle determine the accuracy, so yes there are 1 MOA .50 BMGs.  It is basically a scaled up .30-06.  The AR-50 is sold as a 1 MOA, but is capable of smaller groups.
Another misconception is that it will 'vaporize' things when it hits.  It usually just passes through with little damage.  When shooting pumpkins, I have to cut a small hole and fill them with water, then plug the hole....to get them to explode.  The .223 puts on a better show with pumpkins.

very good post and 100% correct. some 50bmg rounds have even higher bc's then 1.2 i think i have seen a few in load books around 1.4 mark. The 50bmg can be very accurate round. Like said the military rounds like the m33 are way less accurate down range then then hornady amax and barnes bore riders. 2 of the most common long range ammo shot by today's match shooters. It all depends on the shooters and what they can do. The round has plenty of killing power. The problem with the 50bmg is getting the bullet to expand. the military rounds like the m33 are steel core bullets. the amax will open up a little bit more. But not much. more often then not, it will just Punch a big hole. if you hit real solid bone, then its going to get nasty.

These guys are just flat out stupid! They give everyone a bad name. From long range shooters to hunters. I have no prob with anyone shooting long range or shooting any cal that is legal to use. I have a problem with people that lob shots for fun, wound animals, and don't know there equipment to make clean kills.

[Hornseeker]

whats sad is a whole hella lot people think its really cool..the whole video industry is destroying hunting tradition,everyone has to get that 10 minutes of fame,or sell something..

YEP

[dscubame]

I think I witnessed that in the Manastash.   

Screwed up entertainment right thar.  Except for the car that was cool, maybe it was a private lake, whatever you know you would want to do that.

[7mag.]

Disgraceful.

[Black Plague]

that's ridiculous, I don't know much about tracers at all... are those flames coming out of the back end...if so how could you ever shoot those into a dry field or into the woods? looks like a good way to start a fire, and once it starts they are too far away to do anything about it....

[Gutpile]

that's ridiculous, I don't know much about tracers at all... are those flames coming out of the back end...if so how could you ever shoot those into a dry field or into the woods? looks like a good way to start a fire, and once it starts they are too far away to do anything about it....

Oh yeah. They do start fires. 

[DuckDr.Duke]

That just FU who needs a deer that bad. Especially shooting a doe with a .50. come on, thats great all the anti's will love this.