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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2010, 05:48:44 AM »
I don't think the fleching is going to make a difference, I was shooting axis 340's with 4" vains and switched them all to 2" blazers and it made no difference at all, try shuttle T's or Wac'em Tritons and if you like g5's try the Striker all are good broadheads, the striker and triton are pretty much the same, except the striker has a 1/16" larger cutting diameter, the tritons were $8 cheaper per pack and replacement blades are 1/2 the price.I have heard good things about the Slick Tricks also.

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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2010, 07:42:42 AM »
Line up fletchings with broadhead blades!!!!!!
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That makes a big difference when I switch from field points to broadheads.

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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2010, 06:56:27 PM »
i had the same problem about pulled my hair out tring to get the field tips to hit the same as hunting tips.in the end i just moved my sight for hunting season. that worked just great.

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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2010, 12:33:02 PM »
I'd shoot a dloop and really make sure your not gripping the bow . I dont think your under spined. i shoot four fletch blazers with slick tricks they fly like darts . you may want to spray your fleacthing with desinx foot powder to make sure your not getting contact . with the slick trick I set them up opposite the vanes .

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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2010, 03:53:29 PM »
Go here and download this guide....it's great and will get you fixed up

http://www.eastonarchery.com/pdf/tuning_guide.pdf

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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2010, 04:05:55 PM »
If you move your site both your BH group and your FT group will both move, BUT..... the BH group will move a farther distance than your FT group and after adjusting it enough your BH group will "catch up" to your FT group.  This is your problem.  Its not spine, its not BH you just need to simply fine tune your Broad Heads so they impact with your Field Tips.  I have yet to try a Broad Head that you don't have to do this with.  And I've shot, Muzzy's, Shuttle-T's, G5's and Slick Tricks.  BTW I like the Slick Tricks the best.  Just my opinion though.  The G5 Montec is an AWSOME head, I wouldn't change it out. 
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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2010, 06:43:03 PM »
Ok, I had this problem- went with different arrows, different weight points, different broadheads, and it got expensive. Even though the manufacturer directs a certain arrow for draw length and poundage, they play it safe for liability. I went with Gold Tips according to the manufacturer, and guess what, arrow spine was too stiff, even though the box said they were right. If you don't want to change the arrows- I would try putting an O ring between your broadheads and the inserts. This allows you to incrementally adjust where the broadhead sits and how tight it is- but maybe you already did that. Typically if the arrows are shooting left- arrow too stiff, and vice versa for right.

I finally gave slick tricks a try- and only one needed adjustment. I tried Muzzy's, Thunderheads, Innerlocs- Slick Tricks did it for me.  :twocents:

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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2010, 07:07:15 AM »
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If you move your site both your BH group and your FT group will both move, BUT..... the BH group will move a farther distance than your FT group and after adjusting it enough your BH group will "catch up" to your FT group.

Ok, do I hear you correctly on this.  Adjust the arrow rest slightly and move the sights to correct alignment, continue this until both BH and FT hit the same point. ??  

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Line up fletchings with broadhead blades!!!!!!

Ok, on this one the tip inserts are glued and wont move so aligning the BH's wont work unless I remove the inserts, align and reset.  

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Go here and download this guide....it's great and will get you fixed up


Ok, downloaded and reading.  Thanks for the link.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2010, 08:02:26 AM by BallisticsNut »

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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2010, 07:34:01 AM »
the whole thing screams spine issue. change up your weight and it will come around, once you get that dialed, you can possibly trim to get caught up......if too weak now.

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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2010, 04:15:31 PM »
I just assumed you new how to broadhead tune by moving your rest. I agree with clockumelk they will both move but the broadheads will move more. That being said when I ran your specs through Archers advantage it said you were weak spined. I might get flamed for this but I personally think lining blades with fletching makes no difference at all. How would you do it with a 2 blade 3 fletch or a 4 blade 3 fletch? Just my opinion...
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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2010, 06:24:16 PM »
I just assumed you new how to broadhead tune by moving your rest. I agree with clockumelk they will both move but the broadheads will move more. That being said when I ran your specs through Archers advantage it said you were weak spined. I might get flamed for this but I personally think lining blades with fletching makes no difference at all. How would you do it with a 2 blade 3 fletch or a 4 blade 3 fletch? Just my opinion...

Well, I can honestly say I am somewhat a NOOB.  Archery has always been a passion and this is my third compound bow in as much as the last 20 years.  Third bow replaced a defective second bow last year.  I have done a whole crap load of research and talked with as many pros as I can to buy the right equipment.  I am better then average I would say at most distances and have put 3 of 4 in a 3' in ring a 60 yards using field points.  That being said, I have researched tried and tested the moving of the arrow rest but didnt see much improvement.  This is why I came here for help. 

Im not opposed in buying new arrows, I have split two of my last 6 and damaged two others by hitting a fence because of using the wrong pin.  (NOOB)  Ill look into some Beaman 300s or equivelant but I dont want to change my weights, lengths or draw weight. As well I will look at replacing my arrow rest with better drop down rest.  Ill return and let you know the result.  Thanks again.   

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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2010, 06:57:09 PM »
I'd do what Button Nubbs said and get some arrows that have a stiffer spine.  Then re-shoot your field tips and broadheads and see where they hit in relation to each other.  Only move the rest.  DO NOT move your sight until your broadheads and your field tips are hitting the same place.  Then readjust your sight.  Then repeat the process at 40yds.  You will then be good. 
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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2010, 07:50:45 PM »
let me know when your gonna buy new arrows and i will run the numbers thru archers advantage and we can get ya set-up perfect! :brew:
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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2010, 06:39:19 AM »
let me know when your gonna buy new arrows and i will run the numbers thru archers advantage and we can get ya set-up perfect! :brew:

Ill be picking up a set probably in the spring.  Since hunting season is over for me and its a bit too cold here to be out shootin' every day. 

Interesting fact here, I just looked up my arrows on Beman's website and it states that my current arrows are correct shaft and spine.  Maybe I should be looking into the Archers Advantage software. 

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Re: 6" spread between target tips and broadheads at 30 yards?
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2010, 06:49:31 AM »
Arrow charts can get you in the right general area,  but each bow is different. 
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