Multi Season Permit Levels To Increase - "Green Sheet"

[bobcat]

And if you are drawn, and don't buy the permit, then you can no longer apply... 

That would suck for me- I drew deer and elk the very first year they had the multi-season permits, and didn't buy either one. Of course the deer doesn't really count, because it wasn't until summer that they sent me a letter saying I had been drawn for the multi-season deer (must have been the 3rd or 4th drawing)

I didn't gain a point for either one, and haven't applied since. Sorry if I pissed you off stiknstring.   

[chester]

I wont be putting in for deer again. Elk i will find a way. but for deer the price is just way too much $

[Michelle_Nelson]

I drew the Deer Multi Season permit this year.  For $180 the only reason I put in for it is so it extends my hunting season.  I'd have still shot a doe with my bow or a spike during Modern Season.  So far I still have not filled the tag.  If it pisses people off because they think I wasted this tag, I could care less.  To bad so sad it was my permit.  I applied for it, I drew it, and I paid the $180 for it, for my own reasons. 

#1 To extend my season
#2 To have to opportunity to hunt with my bow for the first time and if I didn't kill anything I still had rifle season.  No pressure.

[Alan K]

I've drawn deer twice, bought once, and have yet to draw elk.

[Alan K]

And the reason I still apply without necessarily having the intention of buying is to at least build points. I guess I could be wrong, but I don't think there is a way to put in for ghost points for the multiseason permits.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

I didn't gain a point for either one, and haven't applied since. Sorry if I pissed you off stiknstring

You did not piss me off, it is just that if you are not going to follow through, why initiate the process, lots of complaints about the application process, but a lot of the troubles and difficulty in drawing is due to people applying, reducing the odds, then , well you get the idea...

And the reason I still apply without necessarily having the intention of buying is to at least build points. I guess I could be wrong, but I don't think there is a way to put in for ghost points for the multiseason permits.

Actually that was true until next year, I had to apply, but you can be damn sure that if I was drawn, I would have scraped up the $$., It is just the shear numbers of non-purchasing that surprises me, I mean almost 50%??

[bigpaw 77]

I think they are to expensive!!! $180 is to much to pay to hunt deer with all three weapons. Especially if you do not hunt with a bow then you are paying $180 to hunt for two weeks on the east side. Its just to much money so I am not surprised they cant sell all of the tags.

[GEARHEAD]

i drew both elk and deer multi seasons, between the tags and the bow, i figure i spent a hair over 1000 bucks. but i'll do it again and again, if i can. if not drawn, off to Idaho i go.

[Wacenturion]

All this appears to be is "resource allocation" in reverse.....for dollars.  Absolutely stupid.  Again WDFW is looking at the little picture, their own income and not that of the state's economy, like in small business that support goods and services that we use when we go afield, like gas stations, motels, restruants, sporting goods shops, etc.

People only have so much time off and they can only kill one deer or elk for crying out loud.  Go back to simpler regulations, simpler seasons and more opportunity for everyone.  Also go back to reduced staff levels in the office, both HQ and Regional.  If you want to hunt by different methods and extend your opportunity, do it.....it's self regulating for the most part.  Today's management schemes are just that...schemes.  No science to it.

[bobcat]

Today's management schemes are just that...schemes.  No science to it.

I agree with that statement. There is no management whatsoever as far as regulating the number of hunters in each GMU. It's totally random and seems like the WDFW just sets the seasons and hopes for the best.

People only have so much time off and they can only kill one deer or elk for crying out loud.  Go back to simpler regulations, simpler seasons and more opportunity for everyone.

I hear this a lot and it's just a silly argument. Think about it. Each person is allowed only one but how many actually are harvested per person? Probably somewhere around 1 deer per 3 to 4 people, and 1 elk for every 10 hunters.

Let everyone hunt ALL the seasons and watch the success rates go up. What if they gave us so much time (opportunity) to hunt, that EVERY hunter actually DID kill an elk and a deer each year? There wouldn't be anything left after a couple of years!

[Gutpile]

And if you are drawn, and don't buy the permit, then you can no longer apply... 

Ouch!!! I got drawn for the MS Deer Tag this year and didn't buy it. I wish I would have now but I didn't. Do you mind if I apply again this year? Please. 

[chester]

And if you are drawn, and don't buy the permit, then you can no longer apply... 

Ouch!!! I got drawn for the MS Deer Tag this year and didn't buy it. I wish I would have now but I didn't. Do you mind if I apply again this year? Please. 

I know harsh. I did the same thing, but i filled my general tag. kinda glad i save $180 on my deer. 

[Wacenturion]

Today's management schemes are just that...schemes.  No science to it.

I agree with that statement. There is no management whatsoever as far as regulating the number of hunters in each GMU. It's totally random and seems like the WDFW just sets the seasons and hopes for the best.

People only have so much time off and they can only kill one deer or elk for crying out loud.  Go back to simpler regulations, simpler seasons and more opportunity for everyone.

I hear this a lot and it's just a silly argument. Think about it. Each person is allowed only one but how many actually are harvested per person? Probably somewhere around 1 deer per 3 to 4 people, and 1 elk for every 10 hunters.

Let everyone hunt ALL the seasons and watch the success rates go up. What if they gave us so much time (opportunity) to hunt, that EVERY hunter actually DID kill an elk and a deer each year? There wouldn't be anything left after a couple of years!

Not a silly argument at all, as it was the way it was before "Resource Allocation".  There are records to show what happened.  More opportunity, more seasons, regulated harvest levels that were adjusted.  Not every hunter killed a deer and an elk each year, nor will they ever...just won't happen.  With all due respect, that statement is ridiculous.

[Gutpile]

And if you are drawn, and don't buy the permit, then you can no longer apply... 

Ouch!!! I got drawn for the MS Deer Tag this year and didn't buy it. I wish I would have now but I didn't. Do you mind if I apply again this year? Please. 

I know harsh. I did the same thing, but i filled my general tag. kinda glad i save $180 on my deer. 

I drew a B tag so I did get a deer I just didn't get a Buck. While coyote hunting I saw some absolute pigs during the rut.  

[bobcat]

Not a silly argument at all, as it was the way it was before "Resource Allocation".  There are records to show what happened.  More opportunity, more seasons, regulated harvest levels that were adjusted.  Not every hunter killed a deer and an elk each year, nor will they ever...just won't happen.  With all due respect, that statement is ridiculous.

You know, back then we also did not have the extensive archery and muzzleloader seasons like we have now. There was not a whole lot of deer and elk hunting happening in September and December.

So you're saying we should go back to the '73 regulations and do away with archery and muzzleloader seasons? OK    (with all due respect)