I dont want anybody to get in trouble so I guess nevermind about my first post, unless you own one of their calls. Since BTKR posted that thread about how to get stuff of Youtube, I have been going crazy getting all kinds of sounds so I guess you not missing out on much by taking stuff from Western rivers. Last week I got a whole bunch of goose calls that I tried out on my waterfowl hunt the other day. Still one call I cannot find is a mother grouse squacking when she has chicks nearby. I would have to think that would be a good for yotes and bobcats.