Choke Tubes????

[duckmen1]

whats all your choices for your favorite chock tube?
been thinking of buying a special chock and they are kind of expensive so i want to make the right choice.
lots of my shot are around the 40 yd mark and my guns chocks just are'nt cutting them the way i want
thanks for the advice

[chester]

well my favorite Choke tube is Browning invector + I.C. lead/mod steel.  its been working well for me. What choke do you have in now? Sounds like a Modified should fit the bill.

[270Shooter]

Stock Benelli Crio Improved cylinda!!!

[duckmen1]

i have a stoeger model 2000
and the modified just really opens up way to much in that gun
i actually threw the full in to see if that would help even though it is not recomended and it still does'nt even pattern as tight as a modified in my mossburg pump
the chokes i used came with the gun
unhappy with those chokes so looking for a new one

[chester]

by chance what shells are you shooting?

[270Shooter]

Its "chokes" btw your saying 'chocks' which sounds way to similar to 'cocks'

Modified should be plenty tight with steel shot, maybe it doesn't pattern well?

[duckmen1]

i've shot winchester , remington , kent , federal , and all of the above
black cloud, wingmaster hd you name it i've shot it

[duckmen1]

whoops typing fast makes some weird typos

[chester]

lol...it happens. Hevi-metal might be another solution. its spendy but i keep a couple boxs around for days when they wont finish for me. generally though. Im shooting winchester 3" #2 over the decoys. i had the mod choke in and switched to the IC and im knocking down more birds out to 40yards. steel does funny things in a choke tube.

[duckmen1]

ya it is really weird what happens with a different load, chock, gun etc
i was looking at the black cloud chocks but was'nt sure if it was worth they buy or not but they are not really expensive though

[chester]

ive heard good things about the kicks chokes. also heard the bc chokes only really work good if your going to shoot bc exclusivly. have no experience with either. my stock chokes work for me 

[CountryslickR]

Ive been shooting the Kicks Vortex choke in full on my 870 and have been droppin ducks and geese stone dead!!!!! Love it! Ive mostly shot black cloud and kent with it...I love it! Probly use it for turkeys!

[carpsniperg2]

Browning inv+ steel full/lead mod for 90% of my hunting. I have shot a few choke tubes like pattern master and kicks. My factory choke shoots very well. Kicks has some great chokes, you might look at them.

[sakoshooter]

I've shot a Patternmaster for years now in a couple different guns and never even take it out anymore even when they're decoying well. IC constriction but the 5 raised posts inside slow the wad to give you full choke patterns but even better since the shot string is much, much shorter, my kill to cripple ratio is almost nill.
Remember that the bigger the pellet, using steel, the tighter the pattern. #2 steel is my favorite untill late then I switch to BB.
Also, the faster loads pattern the worst. Many of the 1500 fps loads out there now pattern well but for a while many of them sucked to be honest. I've spent a lot of money on the patterning board at Sumner Sportsmans Association so I'm not making this up. I've also hand loaded steel up to 1900 fps plus but couldn't even tame it with a turkey choke. These loads were all shot through my Pro Chrono chronograph.
If you don't want to spend the money on a Patternmaster, I'd stick with an IC for close over decoys and MOD for everything else using steel that is. Hevi-shot or the like shoots well thru a MOD or FULL but it really shines thru a Patternmaster.
Choke constriction is just one part of the equation. Pellet size and velocity are big factors. The wad makes big difference. Choke length makes a difference. The longer the better to an extent. The parallel section on extended chokes following the constriction also makes a difference.

[Malardman]

Patternmaster would not change it for nothing Extented Range now shooting Fiocchi Golden duck #2 3''

[Bulldozer]

I shoot the Comp-N-Choke full in both my 10 and 12 guage Brownings. I have not changed them since I put them in.

[WDFW-SUX]

comp n choke makes good stuff.

[Balladeer]

Modified.

[mjbskwim]

Just asked this question on another forum.
Thanks for the info.

So the Patternmasters are worth the $104?

How about that $27 a box blackcloud stuff? Didn't do me any good,but I need help with my shooting

[CountryslickR]

I dont know about the Patternmaster being worth $100, but I have heard nothing but great things about them..I will tell you that the Kicks chokes are worth $60....Ive shot plenty Black Cloud and it seems to knock them down with less cripples...me saying this will probly get a few responses on how others can do the same if not better shooting with cheaper ammo  

[mjbskwim]

The first thing I notice when shooting steel ,after having not hunted for 20yrs,was how the birds just fly off after being hit.
I know I hit them cause they dropped 10 feet,then changed coarse.

A kid up here that is a big time ducker(can I say that on here?) swears by blackcloud.
I do need more practice,but I went thru an entire box and bagged 2 birds.

[Stilly bay]

a choke tube is only as good as the pattern it puts out from YOUR own personal gun along with whatever load you are using. IMO hunters spend way too little time at the patterning board and just slap in what ever choke so and so recommended. 
   if you want more ducks with less shells, do some patterning in the off season and you might just find out that the factory choke your gun came with does just as  good a job as that super nifty looking-ported-after market choke you just dropped $90 on.

that being said I love my kicks high flyer in full.  it CRUSHES ducks at 40 yards. I have had very very few cripples since I got it, and with the cripples I did get I didn't have to waste 5 shots to kill them.

[duckmen1]

like i said i have tried patterning my gun and with many many different loads out of all of my factory chocks and it sucks. took multiple shots at a wounded goose the other day from as far as 30 yds to as close as twenty yds and still had to ring its neck. the pattern was all around it on every shot. when my mossburg has a 2 foot pattern this seems to have a five foot pattern
 

[WDFW-SUX]

YIKES!

[chester]

Have you tried going to a more open choke? if its constricted too much it can blow the pattern with steel. you may be going the wrong way on this.

[duckmen1]

ya i've gone as open as skeet with this gun

[sakoshooter]

Get out and pattern your loads in your gun. Paper will work if you cannot get to a gun club with a patterning board. Use a 30" circle on the paper and shoot at a center spot at 40 yds. You can shoot closer and farther but 40 yds will tell you everything you need to know about your gun/shell/choke combination.
Once you decide your load patterns relatively evenly, the rest is up to you.
As far as lead vs steel, personally I think the new steel loads kill ducks as well as any lead load from yesteryear.

[duckmen1]

how many times do i need to pattern my gun
i've only done it i don't know for the past three years over and over again
on paper in the woods at the range what else can i list

[chester]

well nobody can really tell you what choke to get. every gun has what it likes. you may want to start out with some chokes in the 60dollar range instead of going all out. or i do believe there was a guy that you sent your barrel too and he made a choke specifically for it. he also said you couldnt use hi speed loads or anything bigger then bb with it. i forget his info tho. Good Luck

[sakoshooter]

how many times do i need to pattern my gun
i've only done it i don't know for the past three years over and over again
on paper in the woods at the range what else can i list

If you're set on shooting That gun, find a duck/goose load that patterns decent and go with it. Stay away from the high speed stuff. Buy some 1300 fps stuff and try it. I can't believe there isn't a bunch of shells out there that will pattern nicely thru your gun with most any choke at 30 - 40yds. I've patterned close to a hundred target and hunting loads over the last 20+ years thru a lot of different guns with different chokes and the only loads that sucked were my own super high speed duck/goose loads.

[wadu1]

how many times do i need to pattern my gun
i've only done it i don't know for the past three years over and over again
on paper in the woods at the range what else can i list

If you're set on shooting That gun, find a duck/goose load that patterns decent and go with it. Stay away from the high speed stuff. Buy some 1300 fps stuff and try it. I can't believe there isn't a bunch of shells out there that will pattern nicely thru your gun with most any choke at 30 - 40yds. I've patterned close to a hundred target and hunting loads over the last 20+ years thru a lot of different guns with different chokes and the only loads that sucked were my own super high speed duck/goose loads.

sakoshooter is righrt on slow down your shells, they just work better, PS I shoot a Skeet 1 Truechoke