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Machias · « **Reply #45 on:** April 18, 2008, 07:59:13 AM »

Pope your missing the hole dang point. Your sitting there encouraging a 16 year old to hunt in an unsafe manner. These turkey hunting safety tips were compiled over several years of other folks making a mistake. Does it mean that everytime you stalk a turkey you'll get shot, or shoot someone sitting behind a realistic looking decoy, nope. But it has happened enough times to warn folks it's not a good move. It has NOTHING to do with what is sporting or challenging. Do you climb over fences with a loaded gun? Lots of people do and they don't shoot themselves or someone else, but enough folks have to warn people not to do it. Do you jump across a creek with a loaded weapon? Ride in a vehicle with a loaded weapon? Lots of things you can do and get away with, but there is a reason why "DO NOT STALK TURKEYS" is at the TOP of almost every safety tips you look at.

MountainWalk · « **Reply #46 on:** April 18, 2008, 08:18:48 AM »

i still say i cant believe that nobody can find somthing better to point a shotgun at than a dang ol turkey!!...........i killed two in arkansas, and that is enough for me. yall can keep the turkies and the turkey arguments

kirkl · « **Reply #47 on:** April 18, 2008, 08:52:32 AM »

turkey is the only thing open right now for shotguns, i guess we could all be home pulling our puds.

Or taking pics of horses.

MountainWalk · « **Reply #48 on:** April 18, 2008, 09:11:08 AM »

aye, you may be right about the hunting part, but i have a post mounted trap that has two boxes of birds next to it.. i prefer to shoot them

Machias · « **Reply #49 on:** April 18, 2008, 02:34:43 PM »

One last post and I promise I'm done, great article from the Missouri Dept of Conservation, where they harvest 60,000 toms each, three week, spring season.

The Conservation Department has confirmed nine spring turkey hunting accidents this year. They ranged from a person who was struck in the nose by one shotgun pellet to a man who died of his injuries. One other accident is under investigation to determine whether it was related to turkey hunting. This year--as every year--most spring turkey hunting accidents occurred when a hunter mistook another person for a turkey.

"Missouri has so many turkeys, people sometimes take for granted that it's just them and the birds out there," said Rick Flint, hunter education program coordinator for the Conservation Department. "They let down their guard and shoot without waiting to see the entire bird and positively identify it. It's the most common turkey hunting error. There is no excuse for it."

Missouri has averaged approximately eight hunting accidents per spring turkey season over the last 10 years. In the previous decade, the average was 17 accidents per year. The worst year was 1986, when 29 people were injured and two died in spring turkey hunting accidents.

"Seeing accounts of hunting accidents in the news media, it's easy to forget how far we have come," said Flint. Before 1986, when hunter education became mandatory, our turkey hunting accident rate was twice what it is now." He said increased awareness of what causes hunting accidents has helped hunters be safer.

Turkey hunting in this state is really in it's infancy, there is no reason we should have to go through the same growing pains as other states. We can learn from other folk's misfortune. Good luck and be safe folks.

Outfitter · « **Reply #50 on:** April 18, 2008, 03:25:28 PM »

Why isn't everyone out hunting instead of arguing about it??? We got our 3rd one today . Our 2nd one was shot by Shirley Strickland of New Age Outdoors and will air on there show.

popeshawnpaul · « **Reply #51 on:** April 18, 2008, 03:42:28 PM »

Oh, well, I never get tired of debating.

I do like turkey hunting more though...

kirkl · « **Reply #52 on:** April 18, 2008, 03:51:06 PM »

Nice pics outfitter.

Machias · « **Reply #53 on:** April 18, 2008, 03:58:19 PM »

That's why we are arguing, we're at work and not out in the woods!! Nice birds!!

Huntmossberg8 · « **Reply #54 on:** April 19, 2008, 10:43:44 AM »

Sweet mother of god..

.. so i don't get on for 3 days, and apparently I have started a word war. It took me 10 minutes to read through all the posts.

First off, let me say sorry, for not replying to anyone for this amount of time, but inbetween my 9 hour school day, and my 4 baseball games i played, i was out hunting. As much as a debate this has turned into i would like to say sorry, i need to be more clear on my story.

I would like to say i agree totally, that sneaking can be very dangerous, wether your attempting to sneak a tom, or a bugling bull, you never know when you might actually be coming on another hunter, or someone else who is hunting that same animal.

Of the 8 birds i have killed, every single one of them have been called in, 4 bymy cousin, and 4 by me. Of any bird hunt i have been involved in, this was the first bird we ever had to get up and repostion to get the tom. We had the bird gobbling in the roost, he was with 1 hen, we watched them both fly down in plain site. They flew the opposit direction of where we were, but were on a logging road landing, a very nice green patch , we could see them just feeding. The tom was gobbling like crazy, answering to our calls, but did not want to leave his hen. So by 830 we decided, we would try and repostion ourselve on the otehr side of the birds. There was a quad trail that wraped around, so we backed out and went all the way around, and while we were walking down the quad trail towards the birds we saw them coming up the quad trail towards us about 80 yards away. So we sat down, and they walked right in, and i gave my cousin shot( i got first bird last year), he blasted the tom at about 40 yards.. Game over..... I apologize useing the word sneak, but we did manuever around the bird and cutt it off, didn't happen the ideal way, but it happend.

I understand, Machias, point of view totally, and i agree with it, it is stupid to attempt to sneak birds, or game, but there is a difference, between what you talk about on the computer, and what happends in the field, adrenline pumping, heart beating, you want the animal, what really happens.?.. Thank you for backing me up iceman, I am not attempting to tick anyone off, I just wanted to get the exact story of what happend out.

I would say i am safe, and ethical hunter, i abide by all the laws, but, i can't control what other people do, I hunt to the safest,a nd best of my abilitys, And though i am a 16 year old kid, and i know i still have more in this greatlifetime to learn, than i will. I also think i have a pretty good head on my shoulders, Top of my class, athlete,loving family,hard working, self supportive,and i know what i want in life. I love hunting, it is my true passion, I will live my life, to try and help conserve this way of life, so that future generations can continue to enjoy it.

I am happy to see everyones opinions, but know that is exactly waht they are opinions, take them or leave them, to each their own. Have the maturity, to respect that, and not get pissed off over the internet, because somebodys view is slightly different from yours.

I hope everyone has a great hunting season,and is safe out there in the woods, whether your on priviate property by yourself, or on public land with 20 other people, be safe, know your target, wahts beyond it. I am going hunting in the snow.

Huntmossberg8

Intruder · « **Reply #55 on:** April 19, 2008, 09:27:36 PM »

Huntmossberg8.... very nice response! Your feedback shows that you're dialed in and a responsible guy. This certainly was a worthwhile discussion... unfortunately to a degree at your expense. I did not, nor do I believe anyone else, intended to try and point fingers at your as much as make a point in general. Hopefully this forum continues to be a place where we can discuss/debate issues in a constructive manner.

Again... Congrats on the gobbler!!!

Machias · « **Reply #56 on:** April 19, 2008, 09:45:40 PM »

Nice job young man on a good, articulate response. I apologize for jumping to conclusions about your hunting style, I appreciate you coming back on here and sorting us out like a man. Not that you should care, but I'm very impressed. Good luck on your next gobbler!!

Outfitter · « **Reply #57 on:** April 19, 2008, 10:19:23 PM »

Now everyone get along and go kill some DAMN birds !!!!

Huntmossberg8 · « **Reply #58 on:** April 20, 2008, 12:30:40 AM »

I just got home off work,a nd i gotta be back at 7 in the morning, otherwise i would b hunting..

Thank you for your compliments everyone , and i do care how i sound when tlaking to fellow friends, and hunters.I owe much respect to everyone who has helped influence me and my life, that includes, everything i read on here from all of you respectible outdoorsmen.

I want no enemys on here, we are all in the same boat when it somes to the continution of our sport. I do like to her everyons opinion,the good, the "stick in the mud" ones

and the ones in between. we need that balance. I again apologize, for not clarifing my story, but i am happy it happend the way it did, it is a very good discussion. I in no way feel that the discussion was being directed strait towardsme, it pretty much broke off into a total debate over the danger of sneaking, im actually kinda happy i could be involved in a discussion for once, i normally just sit the sidelines,a nd read and learn.lol

Personally I like to call, unless it is spooking the birds, but when Im calling that much and i got a decoy up, i sure as hell hope no one is sneaking my set up. It is dangerous for me and him.
Good Luck to all this season.. goodnight.

ICEMAN · « **Reply #59 on:** April 20, 2008, 07:02:09 PM »

Hey, I told you guys what a great guy Huntmossberg was!

I believe the lively discussion is good for the soul, and I am sure we all learn something about any of the issues that get tossed around on this site.

We got skunked this weekend. Froze our patookey's off too! Damned water in my backpack froze.

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