Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms OVEREACHING

[ICEMAN]

BATFE Requests “Emergency” Authority To Track Semi-Automatic Rifle Sales

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has proposed that it be given emergency authority for six months, beginning January 5, to require about 8,500 firearms dealers along the border with Mexico “to alert authorities when they sell within five consecutive business days two or more semiautomatic rifles greater than .22 caliber with detachable magazines.”  A Washington Post story reporting on the BATFE proposal described that definition as being applicable to “so-called assault weapons,” but it would also apply to many rifles that have never been labeled with that term. 

The reporting requirement will apparently be imposed under the “authority” the BATFE has used in the past to demand reporting of other types of transactions from certain limited groups of dealers over the past 10 years, but the new proposal is far broader than any previous use of this authority.  Of course, there's no law today that prevents dealers from reporting suspicious transactions (or attempted transactions) to the BATFE, and dealers often do so. The BATFE is also free to inspect dealers' sales records—either for annual compliance inspections or during a criminal investigation. 


So what say you?  I do not like this proposal at all. Another move to invade the privacy of lawful gun purchasers.
I believe they would be better off seriously investigating home burglaries of weapons than to mess with the guys who are buying weapons thru legal means.

They will first take an inch....then take a mile.

Just say no to big brother.


http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=6103

[7mag.]

That's a pretty broad scope, a little too broad. There are many hunting rifles that fit that description. I used to have a Browning BAR, that was semi auto with a detachable magazine. Definately not an assault rifle. I think they need to enforce the regulations that are already in place, before adding new ones.

[runamuk]

Several things wrong with this....

how many authorized gun dealers are selling weapons to mexican drug cartels and mexican terrorists?
Why do American citizens on American soil need to be regulated because Mexico cannot control its criminals?
How much longer are we gonna accept this border invasion and the terrorist actions by Mexico?

Build a damn wall solve most of the problem 

[Huntbear]

When you give up Liberty for Security, you have neither!

The ATF is grabbing power, we do not want it to have.  GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR   

[high country]

my gun guy told me that anytime I buy more then one  gun at a time, he is to notify batf. I ws told this during the brady period, so not sure if it was part of that.

[wsmnut]

When you give up Liberty for Security, you have neither!



    So what did/do you think of the "Patriot Act"?
We've never given up so much freedom to big brother before or since.

wsmnut

[Wenatcheejay]

Unfortunatly we are a society (and Government) that reacts instead of being proactive. It is to much work to go after the Cartels in Mexico. So, we will allow the Government to restrict our Liberty. This of course will do nothing what so ever to stem the flow of violence that they are talking about.

[BlackRidge]

So... its no different than California conditions at the moment?

I dont think OUR weapons are the ones to worry about. H*ll, any good attorney would make a legitimate 2nd amendment complaint that it limits OUR access to a means of protection we're entitled to. I fail to see how this effects parties in Mexico, unless this is geared towards addressing Mexican gangs/cartel members already inside the U.S.

Either way, there are probably more effective/less invasive ways to handle this, i.e do a better job policing our borders/change border policies/etc

[Little Dave]

Maybe put this on the other side of the wall instead...

United States of America
Please report to customs to enter legally

PROHIBIDO EL PASO
Los intrusos se pierde la mano

[Bean Counter]

Can anyone explain to me why we need a federal law enforcement agency for A, B, and C, when neither A, B, nor C are illegal per federal or state law?

[bearpaw]

Good points by everyone, I totally agree.

[let.it.fly]

you guys dont understand. there are cartels that use american citizens to purchase firearms in the states. wwatch boarder wars and you will see how often american citizens get caught trying to smuggle weapons into mexico. think about how much makes it through. last episode i watch there was a white family kids mom and dad. looked like god fearing folks. they were smuggling a crap load of money across the boarder somthing like 600k in cash. when the wars in the boarder towns spill onto american streets i bet you will sing a different tune.

[FC]

You aren't being serious when you are telling people to base real life decisions off of reality TV are you?

[Little Dave]

There will be no new tune if the trouble spreads.  We have certain expectations rooted in our founding documents.  Under the Constitution it makes more sense to ban use of the dollar than to infringe on the right to keep and bear arms.

[raekmike]

If we could just add a "mexican tag" to our hunting license for a fee of $5 with no hunter orange required during that season, then we wouldnt need a border patrol cause it would be a solid line of hunters with guns pointed south 10 people deep! 

I don't normally condone shooting people.....but jesus  WTF?  This border thing has got to stop NOW!