Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms OVEREACHING

[melanitta]

you guys dont understand. there are cartels that use american citizens to purchase firearms in the states. wwatch boarder wars and you will see how often american citizens get caught trying to smuggle weapons into mexico. think about how much makes it through. last episode i watch there was a white family kids mom and dad. looked like god fearing folks. they were smuggling a crap load of money across the boarder somthing like 600k in cash. when the wars in the boarder towns spill onto american streets i bet you will sing a different tune.

I am sure that is why they are doing this.  There is a need to better enforce the guns that are being re-sold south of the border, and by tracking who is buying allot of guns north of the border should assist in this.  Most all of the guns used in the drug wars in Mexico are sold to them by Americans, and the Americans buy the dope that fuels the demand for the war.

It used to be the economic situation that was driving illegals into the US, now because of the actions of US citizens (drugs and arms) there is another reason for illegals to cross the border - safety.

[Ray]

Simple solution to the borders and the ATF overreaching abuse. Secure the borders. You think that would be the real emergency here...

[runamuk]

Simple solution to the borders and the ATF overreaching abuse. Secure the borders. You think that would be the real emergency here...

this is the answer..

mexico can go screw themselves America does not need more laws to infringe on our rights because mexico cant control its criminals...we need to lock down our border... it is so damn simple a preschooler could figure it out...

[Heredoggydoggy]

WHAT!!!  Stop all those Obama voters from coming in??  NO WAY!!!! 

[KeeKeeBlamo]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention ICEMAN.  I did use the link attached to write my represenatives in government.  So many people are happy to point their finger at "big government" "dems" or "republicans" as the cause of any given problem.  I liken that to children on a playground pointing a finger at someone and saying "he did it".  Truth of the matter is we have these problems because we allow it and don't do anything to solve these problems.  Take some action people don't just write on this forum and expect nothing to change.

[ICEMAN]

you guys dont understand. there are cartels that use american citizens to purchase firearms in the states. wwatch boarder wars and you will see how often american citizens get caught trying to smuggle weapons into mexico. think about how much makes it through. last episode i watch there was a white family kids mom and dad. looked like god fearing folks. they were smuggling a crap load of money across the boarder somthing like 600k in cash. when the wars in the boarder towns spill onto american streets i bet you will sing a different tune.

I am sure that is why they are doing this.  There is a need to better enforce the guns that are being re-sold south of the border, and by tracking who is buying allot of guns north of the border should assist in this.  Most all of the guns used in the drug wars in Mexico are sold to them by Americans, and the Americans buy the dope that fuels the demand for the war.

It used to be the economic situation that was driving illegals into the US, now because of the actions of US citizens (drugs and arms) there is another reason for illegals to cross the border - safety.

I do not believe that the majority of weapons being used by the cartel were legally bought here in the US. I understood that most all of the automatic weapons were chinese made, and that many of the weapons which were crossing the border were actually stolen from law abiding american citizens.

[ribka]

you guys dont understand. there are cartels that use american citizens to purchase firearms in the states. wwatch boarder wars and you will see how often american citizens get caught trying to smuggle weapons into mexico. think about how much makes it through. last episode i watch there was a white family kids mom and dad. looked like god fearing folks. they were smuggling a crap load of money across the boarder somthing like 600k in cash. when the wars in the boarder towns spill onto american streets i bet you will sing a different tune.

I am sure that is why they are doing this.  There is a need to better enforce the guns that are being re-sold south of the border, and by tracking who is buying allot of guns north of the border should assist in this.  Most all of the guns used in the drug wars in Mexico are sold to them by Americans, and the Americans buy the dope that fuels the demand for the war.

It used to be the economic situation that was driving illegals into the US, now because of the actions of US citizens (drugs and arms) there is another reason for illegals to cross the border - safety.


Not true!!!!
Only about 12% of recovered firearms in Mexico come back to the US.  The remaining 88% cannot be traced because they are coming from other countries ( China, Russia, Guatemala, El Sal, Columbia, Mexican army thefts)

Mexicans are not coming here for safety. They come up for work to earn money and many return home every year. They send a lot of money home in hopes of buying a place down there and to return and live there. Very few, in my experience, want to integrate into American culture. That is why we have English and Spanish in all govt documents, business transactions, most radio stations in E Wa are Spanish etc etc. . A  high percentage living here are involved in or support relatives who are involved in the narcotics trade. 

[Scaramedic]

I know it's a corny cliche but I still love the bumper sticker that says...

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be a convenience store not a governmental agency.

BATF does not have the track record to give them more powers. 

Yet I have to ask how many of us have ever bought more than five rifles or handguns at one time??  I wish I had the free cash to make a purchase like that.  Yeah, I'll take that .270 Tikka, that .30.06 700 ADL, that Weatherby .300 mag., that Glock .45, and that Beretta AL391 12 gauge.  Oh and can you get me the number of a good attorney.  And do you know a good hotel near by.  Because when I bring this lot home I'm out on my ass and probably divorced.