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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2010, 01:23:19 PM »
Phil Andersen was at a meeting with wdfw employees a while back and said that we are not a hook and bullet club anymore ...

Can you document this?????
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2010, 10:43:40 PM »
....... In my opinion, the Wildlife Commission is nothing more than a bureaucratic panel...they remind me of a school board.  Sorry....used to believe that was the way to go....
ya that *censored* went out the window when the greenies came up with a new method.....1. pool money together with a few rich friends 2. pay lawyers 3. sue government 4. get what you want
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2010, 11:03:52 PM »
WaCenturion - I don't disagree with any point you made.  A pile of dog vomit would be a better director than Koenings.  I do believe Anderson is better than Koenings.  I also agree that the Commission is a joke.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2010, 08:30:27 AM »
WaCenturion - I don't disagree with any point you made.  A pile of dog vomit would be a better director than Koenings.  I do believe Anderson is better than Koenings.  I also agree that the Commission is a joke.

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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2010, 02:00:59 PM »
Doublelung and Wacenturion you guys are giving me warm fuzzies all over....NOT!   :(
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2010, 02:38:00 PM »
Miranda Wheckter is the hand of the devil...
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2010, 06:08:25 PM »
I spoke with Phil Andersen at a roundtable meeting in Ellensburg this year. I had my topics to cover at the meeting which I was there to speak about trapping but after the meeting I had an off the record talk with him about hunting and predators. First of all to call him an avid hunter is a stretch. He has hunted but it's been a while. He told me the last time he hunted big game was more then 20 years ago. He is very concerned with fishing and that was why he was hired, not for big game.
I went over the reasons why predators are ruining the hunting and why it would benefit the WDFW to do something about it. He agreed with me but said he would not go there because it is not politically expedient. Not his exact words but pretty damn close.
I think he knows what the score is and ain't a bad guy but he plays the politics of Olympia. There in lies the real problem. As long as Puget Sound elects enough bunny huggers to control the state we'll get more of the same.
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2010, 06:29:25 PM »
Phil Andersen was at a meeting with wdfw employees a while back and said that we are not a hook and bullet club anymore...

Too bad we couldn't organize all of us "hook and bullet" people to not purchase licenses, permits, etc. for a year.  We would find out real quick what kind of club they want to be! 
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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2010, 06:51:02 PM »
Well put Lowedog, I like your thinking

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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2010, 07:25:34 AM »
Phil Andersen was at a meeting with wdfw employees a while back and said that we are not a hook and bullet club anymore...

Too bad we couldn't organize all of us "hook and bullet" people to not purchase licenses, permits, etc. for a year.  We would find out real quick what kind of club they want to be! 


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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2010, 09:30:01 AM »
I think Anderson is not against the hunting groups, but supports them.  His statements are reflective of the fact that WDFW is responsible for managing all of the fish and wildlife resources in the state and the fishers and hunters can not be expected to pay for it all (which they don't - they only pay for game resource management).  By WDFW openly having a broader scope (diversity species) they can work to get funds from the groups that enjoy those species to help pay for the management of them.

He is way better then Koenings who had no care for any resource other than salmon.

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Re: mr. andersen
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2010, 09:59:04 AM »
I have heard that same argument before Melanitta.. I know some of this is true... Grant work makes up a large part of the Bios pay... WHEN they get the grants... I challenge you or anyone else to show me the money trial that shows what you say is true... I think it is "easier" for the WDFW to operate off grants instead of the Pitmans roberts funds and lic sales...
The state in general has used the "Dedicated funds" argument with us on many other subjects.... The reality is it is only used to divide and conqure us... I think the WDFW should ONLY do fish and game species that they have or want to do LIC for... As a hunter i am also interested in conservation, but i'm first and formost interested in the HUNTABLE species that the WDFW are caretakers of.... If Non hunters want to tax themselves more  then so be it... I highly doubt that is the case... I would pay 2x as much for my lic and such if the WDFW was a closed entity and self/closed funded... I think many of the rest of us may as well...  However since there is little trust(the key issue)Myself and others will prioritise our spending and will trim back... I no longer Fish in this state, and trimmed back my licence spending... Not because i couldn't afford it, but because I feel the only way to send a message is though the power of the dollar.
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