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Quote from: huntnnw on December 31, 2010, 01:09:18 AMIts this mentality on here that divides us as hunters .. let's argue over hunting rights ..messed up thing about it is theses are the same people who would vote it out on a ballot cause it doesn't fit "their " idea of hunting ...idiots I agree with you huntnnw, this is exactly why we are losing opportunity after opportunity. People figure if it's not for them it shouldn't be allowed and one thing after another gets voted out. I know archers and even spot and stalk bear hunters who voted to end hounds and bear baiting. Now look where we are at. Same story with trapping, it wasn't only the huggers that voted out trapping. Which method is next? We all know that there will be more!I support all user groups even if it's something I don't do myself.
Its this mentality on here that divides us as hunters .. let's argue over hunting rights ..messed up thing about it is theses are the same people who would vote it out on a ballot cause it doesn't fit "their " idea of hunting ...idiots
I support all user groups even if it's something I don't do myself.
QuoteIf you enjoy having the hardest part of your hunt be carrying the bag of grain to your stand....more power to ya.Have you ever ran a successful bait station Miles?? I used to bait bears when it was legal.... the work and time I put into baiting TOWERED over the work 99+% of spot and stalk hunters ever did... how do I know this? Because I've been around... thats why. I am NOT a big baiting fan...and preaching about "if its legal, then I"m fine with it" is not the answer either. A guy has to have a little foresight in some things. IF..I say IF very theoretically.... baiting can be used as an excuse by the antis to screw up our hunting privileges even more than they do already...wouldnt' it be good to take pre-emptive action? Remember, I just used that as a hypothetical situation. In Texas dam near anything is legal...and I dont agree with much of it and personally dont think it SHOULD be legal... Anyhow, Im rambling here....
If you enjoy having the hardest part of your hunt be carrying the bag of grain to your stand....more power to ya.
Oh and we better get the fisherman to stop using bait!! Afterall its not really fishing if you are using bait!!
I guarantee a group speaking with one voice will have far more sway over the non-hunting public than a broken and splintered group who want's to give away the rights of their fellow hunters simply because it doesn't appeal to their own senses.
Quote from: Hornseeker on December 31, 2010, 08:22:08 AMQuoteIf you enjoy having the hardest part of your hunt be carrying the bag of grain to your stand....more power to ya.Have you ever ran a successful bait station Miles?? I used to bait bears when it was legal.... the work and time I put into baiting TOWERED over the work 99+% of spot and stalk hunters ever did... how do I know this? Because I've been around... thats why. I am NOT a big baiting fan...and preaching about "if its legal, then I"m fine with it" is not the answer either. A guy has to have a little foresight in some things. IF..I say IF very theoretically.... baiting can be used as an excuse by the antis to screw up our hunting privileges even more than they do already...wouldnt' it be good to take pre-emptive action? Remember, I just used that as a hypothetical situation. In Texas dam near anything is legal...and I dont agree with much of it and personally dont think it SHOULD be legal... Anyhow, Im rambling here....Yet Texas hunting lifestyle/business/heritage/pride/voice is about 300x stronger than anything we have here in WA. I don't think that is such a bad thing.
Quote from: bearpaw on December 31, 2010, 08:45:36 AMQuote from: huntnnw on December 31, 2010, 01:09:18 AMIts this mentality on here that divides us as hunters .. let's argue over hunting rights ..messed up thing about it is theses are the same people who would vote it out on a ballot cause it doesn't fit "their " idea of hunting ...idiots I agree with you huntnnw, this is exactly why we are losing opportunity after opportunity. People figure if it's not for them it shouldn't be allowed and one thing after another gets voted out. I know archers and even spot and stalk bear hunters who voted to end hounds and bear baiting. Now look where we are at. Same story with trapping, it wasn't only the huggers that voted out trapping. Which method is next? We all know that there will be more!I support all user groups even if it's something I don't do myself. I feel like I am constantly making this exact argument. It seems like we are amongst the few that see it this way . If we base our decisions on the voting block simply off what we "personally" deem equates to a hunting experience then soon we will have nothing left. I think instead.. it's people who think this way that are actually the ones who don't get what a "hunting experience" is all about. It's not about just what appeals to one individuals or groups senses of what constitutes that experience. There are many things that don't appeal to my senses in hunting but you can bet I will never vote to take a right away from a hunter who may feel just the opposite. If we need something for game management needs then that is for the professionals to decide and our "opinions" should never hold much influence because it should be "science" if they are managing the game properly. I certainly don't think we should vote to remove a right permanently from other hunters (or a tool that game managers can use). If we can't get our crap together and unite on things as hunters (speak with one voice) then we can never expect to persuade the non-hunting public to help us on the voting block. The non-hunting public will play the biggest factor in our future. Animal rights organizations are far more organized than we are in this state. Lets keep doing this and see how far it will get us. I guarantee a group speaking with one voice will have far more sway over the non-hunting public than a broken and splintered group who want's to give away the rights of their fellow hunters simply because it doesn't appeal to their own senses.
...baiting can be used as an excuse by the antis to screw up our hunting privileges even more than they do already...wouldnt' it be good to take pre-emptive action?
