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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #465 on: October 03, 2011, 02:00:46 PM »
Chose to believe me or not. That's your business, not mine. But when was the last time you were at a big traditional archery shoot or rendezvous? If you haven't been to one let me assure you that all the things mentioned in that post will be found there. And they'll also be found in the pages of Traditional Bowhunter magazine.
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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #466 on: October 03, 2011, 02:33:07 PM »
Yes, it's OK for "traditional" archery hunters to use the latest and greatest technology but only if it fits what they perceive as "traditional".   :tup:
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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #467 on: October 03, 2011, 03:00:08 PM »
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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #468 on: October 03, 2011, 03:01:54 PM »
This is a slow, agonizing death. Put it out of our misery!
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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #469 on: October 03, 2011, 03:44:59 PM »
Yes, it's OK for "traditional" archery hunters to use the latest and greatest technology but only if it fits what they perceive as "traditional".   :tup:

Exactly why I'm laughing, who would have believed aluminum inserts or broadheads would be considered "traditional" :chuckle:
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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #470 on: October 03, 2011, 04:14:27 PM »
And I guess it's you that misses the point. Things like metal risers, aluminum arrows, etc, were around long before the compound was invented. But that's not the issue. Rather, our archery seasons have long been regulated in compliance with the Pope & Young Fair Chase standard. But now we have some who advocate that we set that standard aside when there is no compelling reason to do so.
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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #471 on: October 03, 2011, 04:21:56 PM »
But that's not the issue. Rather, our archery seasons have long been regulated in compliance with the Pope & Young Fair Chase standard.

Really? Then why are there late November archery hunts where the deer are often in belly deep snow, Entiat for example?
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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #472 on: October 03, 2011, 05:14:50 PM »
But that's not the issue. Rather, our archery seasons have long been regulated in compliance with the Pope & Young Fair Chase standard.

Really? Then why are there late November archery hunts where the deer are often in belly deep snow, Entiat for example?

huntnphool, it is still fair chase as long as you don't use a lighted nock.  :chuckle: 

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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #473 on: October 03, 2011, 05:24:52 PM »
this is fun,  :tung:
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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #474 on: October 03, 2011, 06:02:13 PM »
Now you're just being ridiculous...

...then again I have always found it difficult to have a serious exchange of ideas with those that bring a video game mentality to hunting and don't mind pissing on the legacy of those that came before us.

So have at it, boys. I'll shut my mouth and let you whine about how unfair it is that you aren't allowed to play wth your shiny electric toys.

 



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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #475 on: October 03, 2011, 06:35:30 PM »
I am always up for a reasonable debate on issues.  I still haven't read one idea that the world as we know it will end if lumenoks are allowed.  I likely wouldn't use them because of the cost and I do fine without them, but if others find it helpful, then why not?  I would be more interested in using expandable broadheads.  They actually would have more of a possible effect on the outcome of a hunt.

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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #476 on: October 03, 2011, 06:55:19 PM »
C'mon there roosy, if your gonna try to compare someone saying a lighted nock should be allowed or that they have nothing against it to what those who fought to establish archery only seasons then who is being ridiculous?

I have always found it difficult to have a serious debate with those that bring a superiority mentality to hunting.
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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #477 on: October 03, 2011, 07:03:11 PM »
It's okay Rooselk, I really didn't think you had a reasonable explanation for that question anyway. I have read P&Y's rules of fair chase and if our seasons are regulated in compliance with their rules, why does Washington allow baiting? Or is this "being ridiculous" too?
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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #478 on: October 03, 2011, 07:27:10 PM »
Time to rename this thread Can-O-Worms.  I think we've heard every argument that should be heard more than once, and 10x as many that never should have been brought up.  Let it die.

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Re: using illumanock in Wa
« Reply #479 on: October 03, 2011, 08:20:46 PM »
Time to rename this thread Can-O-Worms.  I think we've heard every argument that should be heard more than once, and 10x as many that never should have been brought up.  Let it die.
Ya it is starting to sound like Obumbles and his Crew!

 


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