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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2010, 10:00:49 AM »
We had a whitetail doe over at our place in Republic a couple of years ago that had 2 mulie  fawns on her.  That also was the same doe with the candle shaped antlers so she was all goofed up to begin with.  :chuckle:

This one actually sounds legit... that is what I would expect if they successfully crossed; some f%#ed up Dr Moreau $hit... :dunno:
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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2010, 10:24:06 AM »
2 posters mentioned crosses with 'bigger' bodies.  Why would a cross make a muley bigger than other muleys?  An average muley is bigger than an average whitey?  I would suppose the cross would be somewhere inbetween?  An biologists around???

Look up Ligers. They are Way bigger then tigers or lions.
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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2010, 10:49:04 AM »
2 posters mentioned crosses with 'bigger' bodies.  Why would a cross make a muley bigger than other muleys?  An average muley is bigger than an average whitey?  I would suppose the cross would be somewhere inbetween?  An biologists around???

Look up Ligers. They are Way bigger then tigers or lions.

And that's Way with a capital "W"... :chuckle:
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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2010, 10:51:08 AM »
2 posters mentioned crosses with 'bigger' bodies.  Why would a cross make a muley bigger than other muleys?  An average muley is bigger than an average whitey?  I would suppose the cross would be somewhere inbetween?  An biologists around???

Look up Ligers. They are Way bigger then tigers or lions.

And that's Way with a capital "W"... :chuckle:

 :chuckle: :chuckle: That's just for emphasis...  :P
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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2010, 11:04:19 AM »
There's a concept known as "hybrid vigor," whereby genetically insular stocks are cross-bred, and the resulting offspring grow larger than either of the insular stocks. It is possible that this mechanism would take hold in a muley-whitetail cross.

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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2010, 11:20:32 AM »
There's a concept known as "hybrid vigor," whereby genetically insular stocks are cross-bred, and the resulting offspring grow larger than either of the insular stocks. It is possible that this mechanism would take hold in a muley-whitetail cross.

 :yeah: Like when a horse and a donkey cross and make a mule?  The mule is usually bigger than both parents.  Also sterile, which might be why there are so few crosses in the deer populations.  They can only come from 2 fertile species?
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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2010, 11:25:06 AM »
This thread needed a picture :twocents:

This is off my buddy Garrys (wildcountry guide service) trail cam...
Antlers look mulie but definitely a whitey.
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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2010, 11:27:46 AM »
Nice shot

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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2010, 04:30:17 PM »
Alrighty then, thanks for the science lesson.    Any chance we could cross an Elk with a Moose ???  Think of the rack on 1500 lb  eloose ...err.....Mook......err ....whatever the heck you'd call it!

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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2010, 04:52:07 PM »
2 posters mentioned crosses with 'bigger' bodies.  Why would a cross make a muley bigger than other muleys?  An average muley is bigger than an average whitey?  I would suppose the cross would be somewhere inbetween?  An biologists around???

Look up Ligers. They are Way bigger then tigers or lions.

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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2010, 05:28:07 PM »
cool trail cam pic.

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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2010, 09:18:48 AM »
2 posters mentioned crosses with 'bigger' bodies.  Why would a cross make a muley bigger than other muleys?  An average muley is bigger than an average whitey?  I would suppose the cross would be somewhere inbetween?  An biologists around???

Look up Ligers. They are Way bigger then tigers or lions.

Ligers are pretty much my favorite animal.  And I'm pretty good with a bow staff.  That's why gangs keep trying to get me to join.

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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2011, 02:20:20 PM »
http://www.coueswhitetail.com/coues_biology/hybrids.htm

They have a picture of a verified hybrid that I guy killed in AZ.

Hybrids generally look more like whitetail and are almost always the result of a Whitetail buck/Muley Doe cross. Their survival in the wild is very difficult. They usually have a unique awkward gait that is neither whitetail or muley. As a result they rarely mature before being taken by a predator.


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Re: Whitetail-Muley cross?
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2011, 02:27:06 PM »
http://www.coueswhitetail.com/coues_biology/hybrids.htm

They have a picture of a verified hybrid that I guy killed in AZ.

Hybrids generally look more like whitetail and are almost always the result of a Whitetail buck/Muley Doe cross. Their survival in the wild is very difficult. They usually have a unique awkward gait that is neither whitetail or muley. As a result they rarely mature before being taken by a predator.




I would take their information with a grain of salt though. They say on that site that Blacktail deer are a sub species of Mule deer when Blacktails have been around longer. Infact scientist say mule deer were actually created through a Blacktail-Whitetail mix.
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