Goldmark proposes to open DNR gates to Tribal members.

[bearpaw]

To me it's not about if your indian,black, pink or purple it's equal rights, If being their own nation is what they want then they should live with the benefits and repurcussions of being a stand on your own nation.They have their own courts,laws and everything else needed to be independent of the united states, so be independent. Reminds me of my kids, they are only my kids when there si something in it for them, the rest of the time i'm the *censored* who makes them be accountable.

I agree 

The minorities are using every angle they can for special treatment. But as long as they keep getting their way they will keep trying and most any group would. Heck, every minority group in America is using the screwed up system to get what they want, even the illegals that shouldn't be here. 

[280ackley]

I remember haveing a small debate on this site when Gouldmark was running for Commissioner.  Some on here was going to vote for him because "Democrats are better for the environment"  or something like that.  I wonder if they still think that way.  Also, he was elected by taking advantage of the the land slides and flood on the Chehalis.  Basically blaming Sutherland and ignoring the 20" of rain that fell.

[Elkaholic daWg]

I remember haveing a small debate on this site when Gouldmark was running for Commissioner.  Some on here was going to vote for him because "Democrats are better for the environment"  or something like that.  I wonder if they still think that way.  Also, he was elected by taking advantage of the the land slides and flood on the Chehalis.  Basically blaming Sutherland and ignoring the 20" of rain that fell.

And those same democrats will do their best to keep it protected from all of us

[logger]

Off topic, but do indians pay the state gas tax or federal for that matter, just wondering .

[Special T]

If i remeber correctly they pay federal but if its on the rez they pay the tax and it goes back to the tribe....If its bought at a station on the rez...

[logger]

I was just wondering, I am fighting with the forest service about road usage, they charge me to use the f.s. roads but let the indians use it for free, I am claiming discrimination based soley on race. I don't plan on winning I just like to raise the points and at least get some attention for a little while.

[Jack Diamond]

I don't know why you guys are even surprised....he went to Cal Berkeley....

But...but....but.... his political ads when he was running for Congress said that he was an "Okanogan Rancher"....

 

Well he is not the first "Okanogen Rancher" that entered politics, cause they could not manage the Ranch finances, not to mention now 2 acres =ranch! in some people"s mind. So we let them manage our resources and dollars,and stand amazed as they sell us out.
Most votors it would seem go with name recognition, as they won"t bother with research of the candidates, and where does the normal washingtonian get their information? The bought and paid for media. Most of the political candidate"s are running for personal gain , not looking out for the best interest of the people of this state.
So we find out the skunks after it"s too late !

[bearhunter99]

Anybody can be a "dude rancher" whether you are from Okanogan or Puyallup.

[Jack Diamond]

and if my memory is somewhat functional, did a certain state outdoor bi-monthly mag endorse Goldmark? for one of his runs?

[bigtex]

Off topic, but do indians pay the state gas tax or federal for that matter, just wondering .

In no ways am I an expert in this but I believe it has to do with who owns the gas station. Because I know on the Muckleshoot Rez there are two gas stations but one is tribal and the other is not. And the whole different rules thing for tribal governments applies to the tribal station but not the other one.

[logger]

I was just wondering about that, I was pumping fuel one day at a gas station and evadintley it was tribal[didn't realize it at the time] and there was a sign on the pump for tribal members to show their card when paying, so my guess was that once again the burden of maintaining OUR road system was put upon a few of us and not all of us.

[Sporting_Man]

If this is an executive decision, this can be challenged in the court of law, right? On the basis of discrimuination... Just a thought. Then Goldberg would have unpopular situation development once the time for re-election comes.

[colockumelk]

That's what I've been saying.  WE need to get our act together and start challenging stuff like this based on racial discrimination.  Nothing in the treaty or the Boldt Decision says that they have a right to this stuff.  This is all discriminatory.  This is no different than the Jim Crowe laws. 

[bearpaw]

That's what I've been saying.  WE need to get our act together and start challenging stuff like this based on racial discrimination.  Nothing in the treaty or the Boldt Decision says that they have a right to this stuff.  This is all discriminatory.  This is no different than the Jim Crowe laws. 

I totally agree....

[Humptulips]

So it would seem it does some good to make a little noise. This bill should take care of things if it passes.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=1273&year=2011

HOUSE BILL 1273
_____________________________________________
State of Washington 62nd Legislature 2011 Regular Session
By Representatives Kristiansen, Blake, Orcutt, Chandler, McCune,
Pearson, and Harris
Read first time 01/18/11. Referred to Committee on Agriculture &
Natural Resources.
1 AN ACT Relating to prohibiting public agencies from providing
2 specific segments of the general public with access to land for the
3 purposes of hunting and fishing; adding a new section to chapter 77.12
4 RCW; adding a new section to chapter 43.17 RCW; adding a new section to
5 chapter 79A.05 RCW; adding a new section to chapter 79.10 RCW; adding
6 a new section to chapter 36.32 RCW; adding a new section to chapter
7 35.21 RCW; adding a new section to chapter 35A.21 RCW; and creating a
8 new section.
9 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON:
10 NEW SECTION. Sec. 1. A new section is added to chapter 77.12 RCW
11 to read as follows:
12 Unless otherwise specifically authorized in statute, no public
13 agency, as that term is defined in RCW 42.30.020, may provide only a
14 specified segment or segments of the general public with access to land
15 owned, leased, or otherwise controlled by the public agency for the
16 purpose of hunting or fishing without providing the same access
17 opportunity to the general public. This section applies to rules or
18 regulations of the public agency, access contracts and agreements, and
19 all other forms of express or implied access permission.
p. 1 HB 1273
1 NEW SECTION. Sec. 2. Any public agency, as that term is defined
2 in RCW 42.30.020, that allows a specified segment or segments of the
3 general public to access land owned, leased, or otherwise controlled by
4 the public agency for the purpose of hunting or fishing as of the
5 effective date of this section must either suspend access permission to
6 the specified segment or segments or allow access to the general
7 public.
8 NEW SECTION. Sec. 3. A new section is added to chapter 43.17 RCW
9 to read as follows:
10 Any department listed in RCW 43.17.010 shall comply with section 1
11 of this act when granting access for hunting or fishing to any land
12 owned, leased, or otherwise controlled by the department.
13 NEW SECTION. Sec. 4. A new section is added to chapter 79A.05 RCW
14 to read as follows:
15 The commission shall comply with section 1 of this act when
16 granting access for hunting or fishing to any land owned, leased, or
17 otherwise controlled by the commission for hunting or fishing access.
18 NEW SECTION. Sec. 5. A new section is added to chapter 79.10 RCW
19 under the subchapter heading "Multiple Use" to read as follows:
20 The department shall comply with section 1 of this act when
21 granting access for hunting or fishing to any land owned, leased, or
22 otherwise controlled by the department.
23 NEW SECTION. Sec. 6. A new section is added to chapter 36.32 RCW
24 to read as follows:
25 A county shall comply with section 1 of this act when granting
26 access for hunting or fishing to any land owned, leased, or otherwise
27 controlled by the county.
28 NEW SECTION. Sec. 7. A new section is added to chapter 35.21 RCW
29 to read as follows:
30 A city shall comply with section 1 of this act when granting access
31 for hunting or fishing to any land owned, leased, or otherwise
32 controlled by the city.
HB 1273 p. 2
1 NEW SECTION. Sec. 8. A new section is added to chapter 35A.21 RCW
2 to read as follows:
3 A code city shall comply with section 1 of this act when granting
4 access for hunting or fishing to any land owned, leased, or otherwise
5 controlled by the code city.
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