collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Winchester’s new Ammo  (Read 2065 times)

Offline CP

  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2008
  • Posts: 7199
  • Location: Mukilteo
Winchester’s new Ammo
« on: January 04, 2011, 08:58:25 AM »
Anyone seen or used this stuff?

http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/ammunition/2010/10/bourjaily-tests-winchesters-blind-side-shells

I guess this is Winchester’s attempt at something to compete with Blackcloud.  I’m not seeing how dice shaped shot is going to improve anything but maybe I’m missing something.

Offline C-Money

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2008
  • Posts: 10986
  • Location: Grant County
  • Self proclaimed 3pt master
Re: Winchester’s new Ammo
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2011, 09:17:02 AM »
I like the idea of delivering more payload to the target.
I felt like a one legged cat trying to bury a terd on a frozen pond!

Offline ducksdogsdownriggers

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 228
  • Location: Wenatchee
Re: Winchester’s new Ammo
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2011, 10:11:35 AM »
I've hear the price point is going to be in the $30/box range.

Offline BlackRidge

  • Mmm tag soup..
  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2010
  • Posts: 1087
  • Location: Sammamish
  • WildGame Deterrent
Re: Winchester’s new Ammo
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2011, 10:23:49 AM »
Glad to see them trying new things
Theres plenty of room for all of gods animals.... right next to the mashed potatoes!

Offline jordano

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 1336
  • Location: East Wenatchee, WA
  • Cupped and Comin'!
    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profile.php?id=593729282&sk=info
Re: Winchester’s new Ammo
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2011, 04:21:12 PM »
not so sure about this.... normally flat sides result in the "knuckling" affect which the pellets would not fly very straight..
Ozzie

Do what you like. Like what you do.

<><

Gettin' their feet on my face!

Offline Special T

  • Truth the new Hate Speech.
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 25060
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • Make it Rain!
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
Re: Winchester’s new Ammo
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2011, 08:06:15 PM »
If the price is in the $17-22 range i'll give it a try if not i just keep buying the standard... Cool that they are trying diff stuff tho...
In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

Confucius

Offline sakoshooter

  • WFW Board of Directors
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 3597
  • Location: Puyallup
  • Groups: Life Memberr NRA, Life Member Sumner Sportsmans Association
Re: Winchester’s new Ammo
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2011, 09:49:39 AM »
Companies are always coming up with new ideas that hopefully pan out.
The wad looks like a good idea as is the Black Cloud wad. The flat sided pellets tell me that they will penetrate less and worse, not carry themselves down range as well as round pellets simply because of being less aerodynamic. These loads will not shoot well thru a Patternmaster choke similar to the Black Cloud ammo.
Rhinelander, WI
Home of the Hodag

Offline Special T

  • Truth the new Hate Speech.
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 25060
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • Make it Rain!
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
Re: Winchester’s new Ammo
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2011, 10:06:40 AM »
Well if you think about it Black clowd and this Blindside spreads too quick for the shape of the pellets but they off set that by changing the shot cup... Steel sucks cause it normally goes right through... I think this stuff might not be as good as lead but thery are heading in the right direction..  :twocents:
In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

Confucius

Offline Moose330

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Pilgrim
  • *
  • Join Date: Dec 2008
  • Posts: 4
Re: Winchester’s new Ammo
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2011, 10:41:29 AM »
Havent heard of this ammo yet but I do know from experience that flat sided pellets dont fly straight.  Now that said...These companies dont put something out on the market without tons of money being spent in research and development.  I say give it a try.  The writer of the article seemed to be very impressed and it seems that they solved the problem with the flyers by using that new wad.  The only thing that would make me say no way was a price in the $30.00 range.  The article said that the price was in the $17 - $22 range and that is reasonable I think.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2011, 10:48:45 AM by Moose330 »

Offline Tealer

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2009
  • Posts: 811
Re: Winchester’s new Ammo
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2011, 03:46:27 PM »
I have cut open many factory shells over the years. Some of the most deadly ammo is not round. Hevi steel comes to mind. It looks like welding slag, piled up birds though. If they bringing this to market my guess is they have figured out some of the problems with it. I am curious how much difference it actually makes.

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Mt. St. Helens Goat by builtfordtough
[Today at 02:00:50 PM]


49 Degrees North Early Bull Moose by Pathfinder101
[Today at 12:35:52 PM]


49 DN Moose Success by TriggerMike
[Today at 12:05:38 PM]


Early Huckleberry Bull Moose tag drawn! by TriggerMike
[Today at 12:04:23 PM]


CWD drop off station- What a joke! by 2MANY
[Today at 11:03:51 AM]


Late Alta Muzzy by jstone
[Today at 10:24:19 AM]


2025 blacktail rut thread by cavemann
[Today at 10:11:36 AM]


Krackers Blow your doors off Razor chowder by pianoman9701
[Today at 10:00:00 AM]


Kettle Range Moose by sjhgraysage
[Today at 09:54:55 AM]


Idaho on the verge of outlawing by 2MANY
[Today at 09:29:37 AM]


European mounts around Spokane by BULLBLASTER
[Today at 07:05:24 AM]


2025 elk success thread!! by Bo_nimrod
[Today at 05:25:01 AM]


Possible record bull? by trophyhunt
[Today at 04:28:51 AM]


Color phase fox by Jpmiller
[Today at 02:54:40 AM]


2025 deer, let's see em! by brokentrail
[Yesterday at 10:51:39 PM]


re-barreling a gun by Bob33
[Yesterday at 07:13:13 PM]


Restraining Order to Prevent Sherman Wolf Removal by greenhead_killer
[Yesterday at 06:32:24 PM]


AMMO 6.5 PRC 143 Gr ELD-X Hornady by dblungshot
[Yesterday at 06:22:55 PM]


Boring & relining .22 barrel, any recommendations? by Blacktail Sniper
[Yesterday at 12:14:08 PM]


Muzzleloader scope options by BigJs Outdoor Store
[Yesterday at 12:10:09 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal