Fuel Fix Question?

[Coasthunterjay]

just wanted to check in and see what the results are from the people who tried it?

ANYONE?

[New England Native]

Ok here's another question I have a 2007 chevy silverado w/ the vortec 5.3. The manufacturer says I could use E85 in it and a gas station nearby sells it for a dollar less than gas. Has anyone else tried it? I'm still a little weary of putting it in my tank. I can't find anyplace that lists negatives of ethanol.

[Alchase]

This is one of the nicer comparison
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/news/2006/ethanol-10-06/tests-of-ethanol-vs.-gasoline/1006_ethanol_test_1.htm

Tested in a tahoe

Most vehicles are seeing a decline in performance of 15% to 25% with a MPG loss of 15%-45% depending on the vehicle.
Tons of information out there, just do not trust any web site sponsored by any vehicle manufacturer of E85 coalition.

[Coasthunterjay]

Ok here's another question I have a 2007 chevy silverado w/ the vortec 5.3. The manufacturer says I could use E85 in it and a gas station nearby sells it for a dollar less than gas. Has anyone else tried it? I'm still a little weary of putting it in my tank. I can't find anyplace that lists negatives of ethanol.

here you go man, this is what i have for ethenol.....

PROS

Reduce dependency on foreign oil
Renewable fuel source
Readily available sources for production
Burns more completely that gas
High octane level reduces need for antiknock additives

CONS

Increased ozone emissions
Combustion emits formaldehyde, a highly toxic organic solvent
Potential damage to fuel system components at concentrations higher than 10% on non-modified vehicles
Ethanol production uses other fossil fuels during the process
Contains only 2/3 the energy content compared to gas
Excessive water concentrations may cause engine stalling or even severe engine damage
The grain required to fill one 25 gallon (95 litre) fuel tank would feed one person for a year
The US already uses nearly one-sixth of its grain crop (and over half of all its corn) to produce ethanol for cars, and while this represents only 3% of all fuel sold, it is starting to affect the global prices of wheat and corn, which feed into other food prices

[New England Native]

Thanks that is some info that I was looking for. I don't want to hurt my baby!

[MichaelJ]

Ok here's another question I have a 2007 chevy silverado w/ the vortec 5.3. The manufacturer says I could use E85 in it and a gas station nearby sells it for a dollar less than gas. Has anyone else tried it? I'm still a little weary of putting it in my tank. I can't find anyplace that lists negatives of ethanol.

here you go man, this is what i have for ethenol.....

PROS

Reduce dependency on foreign oil
Renewable fuel source
Readily available sources for production
Burns more completely that gas
High octane level reduces need for antiknock additives

CONS

Increased ozone emissions
Combustion emits formaldehyde, a highly toxic organic solvent
Potential damage to fuel system components at concentrations higher than 10% on non-modified vehicles
Ethanol production uses other fossil fuels during the process
Contains only 2/3 the energy content compared to gas
Excessive water concentrations may cause engine stalling or even severe engine damage
The grain required to fill one 25 gallon (95 litre) fuel tank would feed one person for a year
The US already uses nearly one-sixth of its grain crop (and over half of all its corn) to produce ethanol for cars, and while this represents only 3% of all fuel sold, it is starting to affect the global prices of wheat and corn, which feed into other food prices

You are correct sir in all of the above, however I would seriously NOT worry about running it in a newer chevy truck that's designed to switch between the two...

NewEnglandNative,
Seriously, the auto manufacturers wouldn't even suggest putting it in if they hadn't designed the engine and fuel system AROUND E85, however they do suggest it and they even cover it in their warranty.
All the cons listed above are for vehicles that have fuel systems designed for unleaded gasoline... not for a highly computerized truck designed to switch between the two.  That's just my .02

Michael

[Curly]

NewEnglandNative,
All the cons listed above are for vehicles that have fuel systems designed for unleaded gasoline... not for a highly computerized truck designed to switch between the two.  That's just my .02
Michael

Michael, I believe the only con listed "for vehicles that have fuel systems designed for unleaded gasoline" is

Potential damage to fuel system components at concentrations higher than 10% on non-modified vehicles

The other cons listed should apply to all vehicles.

[catwithboost]

Well in my 96 dodge I got 68 more miles out of the first tank which is like 3.5 miles a gallon. So it is working for me. I dont drive it much only put 3000 miles on it in the past year.

[jackelope]

it is very interesting to me why none of you guys using this stuff are actually calculating gas mileage yet...going off miles per tank is no where near accurate.

thats all i'm gonna say.

[catwithboost]

If you look at my post it says 3.5 miles to a gallon. 

[KillBilly]

I've run it through 4 tanks now. I commute 110 miles round trip daily. the very first tank I saw an increase of 2.26mpg. the 2nd tank showed me an increase of 3.43 mpg, the 3rd ans 4th tanks are the same at 4.67& 4.69 mpg increase. I went from 37.xx mpg up to almost 42 mpg. I am happy with it, but of course I never doubted it.

[jackelope]

If you look at my post it says 3.5 miles to a gallon. 

no it doesn't.
 

Well in my 96 dodge I got 68 more miles out of the first tank which is like 3.5 miles a gallon. So it is working for me. I dont drive it much only put 3000 miles on it in the past year.

what i meant is actually calculating gas mileage. fill your tank...clear your trip odometer. run through a tank, fill it up and look at your trip, take how many miles you went and divide it by the number of miles on your trip odometer. thats how you calculate gas mileage. killbilly has done it correctly and he knows what i'm talking about.
apparently that wasn't all i had to say.
killbilly...what the hell are you driving that you get that kind of gas mileage?

[Curly]

killbilly...what the hell are you driving that you get that kind of gas mileage?

I want to know too.  I bought a 2002 Saturn last winter for a commuter car and couldn't be happier with the mileage........well maybe I could if I could get 42mpg  .  I consistently get 38 mpg or slightly better and once or twice I've managed to get 39 mpg.

KillBilly, how much of the bottle do you put in your tank?  And how much does it add to the price per gallon of your fuel?  Do you come out ahead after purchasing the stuff and getting the better mileage? 

[KillBilly]

. killbilly...what the hell are you driving that you get that kind of gas mileage?

I am driving a 2006 Hyundai Tiburon, 2.0 litre with a 5 speed

[catwithboost]

Sorry I did not brake it down as far as he did. I think I have a idea how to figure out as mileage. I think it was around 3.48 mpg so I just round to 3.5 MPG is that all right or do you need me to maybe brake it down to lets say 3.489999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 MPG does that work?