Daily Bag Limit/Possession Limit?

[gotshot]

I just read the regs for razor clams. It says one limit and any more need to be frozen or processed. I don't know how many times me the wife and kids went down for three days and dug limits every day and then brought them home on ice and cleaned them. Imagine the fine there,

[Fishnclifff]

Right you can have 14 in your possession, but you can still go hunting the day after you have 14, as long as you dont have them in your possesion at the time you are hunting. 

Daily bag limit is how many you can shoot in one day.  Possession limit is the total number you can have in your possession.  If the possession limit is 14, you cannot possess more than 14 at one time.  If you shot 7 yesterday, and 7 today, then you can't shoot any tomorrow. CORRECT

That's not true.  Possession limit is 14, period.  You can't have more than 14 ducks in your possession at any given time.  Nowhere does it say "in the field".  Possession means at your house, at your camp, in your freezer.  What may be an out here is if they are processed like into pepperoni.  If the game warden shows up at your house though and you have more than 14 ducks, I think you're screwed.

THIS IS TOTALLY UNTRUE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The federal possesion limit ONLY applies to between the place you kill the waterfowl TO your vehicle or place of permanent or temporary abode or other facilities.

IT DOES NOT APPLY TO YOUR FREEZER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Field possession limit:No person shall possess, have in custody,
or transport more than the daily bag limit
or aggregate daily bag limit, whichever
applies, of migratory game birds, tagged or
not tagged, at or between the place where
taken and either:a) His automobile or principal means of
land transportation; or
b) His personal abode or temporary or
transient place of lodging; or
c) A migratory bird preservation facility;
or
d) A post office; or
e) A common carrier facility.

[CountryslickR]

Finally!!! someone said it!!! hahahahahaha!!!!! Thank you Fishnclifff....I was hoping all the people werent goin out to hunt again till they ate the seven that they shot the day before, or waiting till they ate ducks till they had less than 14 in the freezer...!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol.... 

[Gopher]

Well, from what I see, NOWHERE in the state laws does it say anything about that.  It very simply says that the possession limit for ducks is 14......period.  Says nothing about in the field or in transit or at your residence.  As far as the federal law goes, state law trumps that if it makes things more restrictive but even the federal law says 14 is your possession limit.

[singleshot12]

Onc they are procesed, or cleaned, I think you are good to go

That has to be true, most guys save up their duck and goose meat all season and at the end they take 50-100 lbs. of meat to the butcher to get processed.  50 lbs. is like about a hundred ducks worth.

[goosegetter79]

Right you can have 14 in your possession, but you can still go hunting the day after you have 14, as long as you dont have them in your possesion at the time you are hunting. 

Daily bag limit is how many you can shoot in one day.  Possession limit is the total number you can have in your possession.  If the possession limit is 14, you cannot possess more than 14 at one time.  If you shot 7 yesterday, and 7 today, then you can't shoot any tomorrow. CORRECT

That's not true.  Possession limit is 14, period.  You can't have more than 14 ducks in your possession at any given time.  Nowhere does it say "in the field".  Possession means at your house, at your camp, in your freezer.  What may be an out here is if they are processed like into pepperoni.  If the game warden shows up at your house though and you have more than 14 ducks, I think you're screwed.

THIS IS TOTALLY UNTRUE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The federal possesion limit ONLY applies to between the place you kill the waterfowl TO your vehicle or place of permanent or temporary abode or other facilities.

IT DOES NOT APPLY TO YOUR FREEZER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Field possession limit:No person shall possess, have in custody,
or transport more than the daily bag limit
or aggregate daily bag limit, whichever
applies, of migratory game birds, tagged or
not tagged, at or between the place where
taken and either:a) His automobile or principal means of
land transportation; or
b) His personal abode or temporary or
transient place of lodging; or
c) A migratory bird preservation facility;
or
d) A post office; or
e) A common carrier facility.

Should have posted this sunday night or monday. 

[Fishnclifff]

Well, from what I see, NOWHERE in the state laws does it say anything about that.  It very simply says that the possession limit for ducks is 14......period.  Says nothing about in the field or in transit or at your residence.  As far as the federal law goes, state law trumps that if it makes things more restrictive but even the federal law says 14 is your possession limit.

State law does not trump federal law, It works in conjunction with fed. laws.

We hunt watrrfowl under the FEDERAL MIGRATORY ACT, located in Title 50, Code of Federal
Regulations, Part 20.

Quote:  Under Federal law established by international treaties with Canada, Mexico and other countries with whom we share migratory birds, the Service has ultimate responsibility for regulating migratory bird hunting nationwide. Through a regulatory process that begins each year in January and includes public consultation, the Service establishes the frameworks that govern all migratory bird hunting in the United States. Within the boundaries established by those frameworks, state wildlife agencies have the flexibility to determine season length, bag limits, and areas for migratory game bird hunting.

Each state has primary responsibility and authority over the hunting of wildlife that resides within state boundaries. State wildlife agencies that sell hunting licences are the best source of information regarding hunting seasons, areas open/closed to hunting, etc. (Hunting of migratory birds such as ducks and geese is managed cooperatively by state fish and wildlife agencies and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service). Migratory waterfowl hunters must possess both a state hunting license and a Federal Migratory Bird Hunting and Conservation Stamp (Duck Stamp), and each hunter needs a Harvest Information Program (HIP) number for each state in which they hunt migratory birds. "

Per WAC 232-28-433, you can harvest 7 ducks per day, and be in possesion of no more than 14.
 This would allow you to travel to eastern Wa or hunt a 2 day hunt and be able to legally transport you birds if you limited both days.
The possesion rule was to stop feather hunters years ago.

[goober]

THIS IS TOTALLY UNTRUE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The federal possesion limit ONLY applies to between the place you kill the waterfowl TO your vehicle or place of permanent or temporary abode or other facilities.

IT DOES NOT APPLY TO YOUR FREEZER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You should confirm this with a Federal warden because you are incorrect. This debate goes on every year and to clarify the law, I talked with six different districts....three from the State, three from the Feds. Not your local warden, but THE GUY IN CHARGE!

Every State LEO stated that a STATE officer will not check your freezer and it is their interpretation that possesion ends when the birds reach your place of residence (not your hunting shack) and they are cleaned. On the other hand, EVERY Federal officer said that a Federal agent will check your freezer and possesion only ends when the birds are consumed. This includes frozen birds, duck sticks, jerky, whatever, it all counts.

As said previously, a state law cannot make a federal law less restrictive, but it can make one more restrictive.

Granted, the likelyhood of getting your freezer checked depends a great deal on breaking another law that makes them pay some attention to you, but it is good to know the law and the risk to protect yourself.

[Fishnclifff]

No state or fed official will check your freezer, unless they have concerns that you are taking over your limit. Then you had better have proof of what you took and how many days you took it in.
Otherwise
Possesion  in the field ends at your CAR when hunting.

There is no other federal or state law telling anyone how much they can posses at their homes.
Everything else is just someones opinion and we don't hunt according to someone's opinion, we hunt per the regulations set forth by the federal and state gov'ts.

[fast60eddie]

So if I have 21 ducks 12 geese in my car by myself the lawman will just assume that I must have finished a three day hunt

[singleshot12]

Either that or your buddies gave you their limit 

[fast60eddie]

If you have it in writing your buddies gave you their limits would fly.

[Fishnclifff]

Where did he check you?
What law man?

[goober]

Possesion  in the field ends at your CAR when hunting.

There is no other federal or state law telling anyone how much they can posses at their homes.
Everything else is just someones opinion and we don't hunt according to someone's opinion, we hunt per the regulations set forth by the federal and state gov'ts.
[/quote]

This is about the dumbest stuff I've ever seen posted and I feel sorry for anyone foolish enough to listen to your advice.

Well, I guess you should post up your contact info so we can direct the wardens to you for advice on the subject, since they wouldn't know what the law is!

[goober]

I'll tell you what...before you come back on here and post up some more of your interpretations, why don't you call a Federal office and get the opinion of the guy in charge. That way, we won't have to read any more of this nonsense and you will have learned something new.