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Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« on: January 25, 2011, 12:57:23 PM »
 The WSO split the blue grouse family into two different species groups in 2006, -the "sooty" grouse, primarily found from the Cascases, west, and the "dusky" grouse, found in the NE and SE corner's of the State.

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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2011, 01:03:45 PM »
I'm gonna go for the grand slam.
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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2011, 01:07:22 PM »
Dusky grouse get shot after sunset, sooty grouse get cooked over a campfire on a stick. :sas:
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2011, 01:08:24 PM »
 :-) Good eats. It always did seem to me the NE grouse were a little bigger than what we have here, I didn't realize the change until updating my photo list from the WSO's web site last year.

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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 01:10:31 PM »
Both types will still always be blue grouse to me.

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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011, 01:14:54 PM »
Both types will still always be blue grouse to me.

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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 01:16:39 PM »
Both types will still always be blue grouse to me.
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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011, 01:18:09 PM »
Both types will still always be blue grouse to me.

 As long as the regs don't differentiate, stay tuned.

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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2011, 01:19:50 PM »
 I could see it as a potential future mechanism to adjust season's as well, particularly east of the mountains.

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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2011, 01:21:27 PM »
What, do you think they'll have a different limit for each type? I'm not sure why they would, as the daily limit as it is now combines ruffed grouse, blue grouse, and spruce grouse into "forest grouse." (yes, I said blue grouse)   :chuckle:

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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011, 01:23:34 PM »
I could see it as a potential future mechanism to adjust season's as well, particularly east of the mountains.

I don't think so. They could already do that if they wanted to by just specifying different areas. Most people won't know the difference between a dusky and a sooty. Do you think one is low in numbers and the other is not?

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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2011, 01:31:36 PM »
 They've done it in the past. :dunno:. They have both liberalized limits and cut back season's due to reproduction rates. If NE populations suffer say from drought, which is a very common cause of low-reproduction rates, it would make more sense to shorten the bag-limit on the species experiencing the decline, as opposed to the State as a whole. How blacktail are now managed with the segregatetion that occurred in the Klickitat area is a good example. It opens the door to that possibility. That said, I don't believe WSO's intent had anything to do with season's at all.

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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2011, 01:32:23 PM »
I can see the "benchleg" grouse arguments coming already  :bash: :bash: :chuckle:
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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2011, 01:35:16 PM »
I can see the "benchleg" grouse arguments coming already  :bash: :bash: :chuckle:
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 B&C benchleg Sooty grouse... :chuckle:

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Re: Blue Grouse no more in Washington
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2011, 01:38:50 PM »
Grouse populations are affected very little by hunting pressure so I really doubt they would change the season and/or limit for one but not the other.

 


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