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Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« on: January 30, 2011, 07:54:59 PM »
After reading up on the Rossi Trifecta it seems the gun is not so good with users reporting an average of 9 inch groups at 100 yards.

Whacker1 had some good advice about buying a quality rifle so the value remains intact, I agreed.

My daughter is 9 and taking hunter safety in March preparing for the 2011 big game season.  Her name is Rylie.

Here she is shooting yesterday as we were goofing off up in the NE corner around monumental mountain.

So what can you folks recommend?

Thank you,  Dan
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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2011, 08:01:22 PM »
 :twocents: Try to find a used .243 that can have a youth stock added, keep the full size until she gets older then cut it down. Just keep her shooting and having the fredom to do so.
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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2011, 08:03:51 PM »
Now that is a heck of an idea.  Really liking that thought, thank you.
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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2011, 08:07:09 PM »
I assume she has ear protection...

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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2011, 08:11:15 PM »
I started my son on a .243 (Rem 700) after shooting a deer (100 gr Sierra BT) and not being impressed we moved him up to a 7mm-08 (Tikka 3) and he loves it. The 7mm-08 has less felt recoil IMO and his opinion (He is now 12). He took a deer last year (140 gr Nosler Partition) with no problem. Both rounds are great but the 7mm-08 gives you a lot more power through a heavier bullet option without more kick to a little body.  :twocents:

I hope that helps.


BTW Cute Picture of her :)
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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2011, 08:20:51 PM »
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After reading up on the Rossi Trifecta it seems the gun is not so good with users reporting an average of 9 inch groups at 100 yards.

I don't know where you've been reading.. 

I've had two Rossi Triple Plays, (Trifecta).. for my boys.  Both did well under 3" at 100yds with factory loads and aproached 1 1/2" with hand loads.

You get what you pay for. They're not a TC, but for the money, they're fine for a beginner.

In my eyes though, the best bang for the buck though is the Marlin XS7.

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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2011, 08:26:10 PM »
Thanks Steve. 

I just Googled it and stopped my research after the first 3 user reviews that came up on page one so I may be way off.  You found the Rossi to be acceptable then I will look into it further because I really liked the 3 barrels in one concept. 

Also interesed in the Tikka 3 idea from WenatcheeJay and will look up the Marlin XS7.

Thanks.
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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2011, 08:32:30 PM »
Suggestion...

Eye and ear protection for your daughter. Teach her right.  :)

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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2011, 08:36:08 PM »
Ear protection we use the old school plugs.  Eye protection not happening.  Bring on the criticism but not happening as I do not feel there is an exposure on that one.  Thanks for all the concern.
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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2011, 08:56:54 PM »



Dan, I don't know what your budget is but the better rifle/scope/ammuntion you can afford the better. I just bought a Savage Edge but have not taken it out yet. That was $329.00 with scope or you could buy it for $250.00 in black stock at Cabelas through the 31st. I don't know about youth stocks for it. I may gift it to my brother (which is why I bought it.) That gun does have a hard trigger pull but that it not always bad for a young shooter. It's reviews says it is an accurate (MOA) gun.

I picked up the .243 (Rem 700 used) for $350.00, it was very accurate, and the Tikkia (Very Accurate) was $600.00 (new), both youth models.

Steve, I would consider 3" totally unacceptable, even 1.5" would not be something I would consider OK, but to each their own.
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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2011, 09:08:20 PM »
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Steve, I would consider 3" totally unacceptable, even 1.5" would not be something I would consider OK, but to each their own.

Last time I checked... The kill zone is bigger than a couple inches. I kept my boys under 100yds with iron sights for their first kills.  The youth Rossi's where only because they were small kids. They've moved on to bolt guns..

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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2011, 09:10:18 PM »
If a tikka will fitter i would get her a t3 lite in the 7mm-08. A great caliber with low recoil and has enough puch to take any animal around here.
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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2011, 09:23:26 PM »
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Steve, I would consider 3" totally unacceptable, even 1.5" would not be something I would consider OK, but to each their own.

Last time I checked... The kill zone is bigger than a couple inches. I kept my boys under 100yds with iron sights for their first kills.  The youth Rossi's where only because they were small kids. They've moved on to bolt guns..

-Steve

Geeze Steve, I am not trying to be rude here. I have no problems with whatever people choose to do. Like I said, "To Each Their Own." If you choose to keep your young hunters under 100 yds and feel a 3" group is acceptable that is your thing. If you can get their groups to 1.5" even better. I don't and have never wanted to own a Rossi Trifecta. I was not trying to undermind anyone who wants to own one. I also was not the one scolding people for posting politically incorrect pictures on the site. I simply gave my opinion and shared the rifles that worked for me and my youth hunter.  Be it 9" or 3" best case scenario I think an ethical hunter owes it to the animal to be as accurate and humane as possible. That is all I am sharing.  :twocents:
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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2011, 10:05:17 PM »
My son started with the Tikka T3 lite 7mm-08 at age 12 and 5'2" 100lbs and no problems. He is now 6' 1" and 160 and he still shoots it and loves it. It is a great gun and something she can shoot now and grow into it with no mods.

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Re: Youth Rifle Recommendation / Advice
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2011, 11:02:56 PM »
Steve, If you are going to PM me then listen to my point. If I came across as rude to you I am truly so sorry. It seems to me that there is a big change at Hunt Wa and that personal attacks are the sport of the season. That is not me. That you would take your children out to the wild and share hunting with them, you have my total and complete respect. And, that you have Rossi's that shoot more accurate than what Dan quotes, even better. As I said in my messages to Dan, (That included a response to your response to him) I find 3" unacceptable. Why? Because where my son took his first deer 200 yds were average shots. So our needs were different (Yours and mine) I totally respect that you take your kids out. If you think I don't respect that you do that all I can say is that I do. I was sharing my take for Dan, I tried to include price and my personal results to him. 
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