$30 Access Permit for State Lands (WDFW, DNR, & Parks)

[bigtex]

so what exactly is capital forest?  does it apply to there?

DNR and yes it would apply there.

[raekmike]

tex,


if it's not too much trouble can you break down what my hunting fee's pay for?
Not being a smart ass just unclear on the big picture here..

I "assumed" that my fee's weren't just covering the hunting season but helped to fund for the whole year...

[jager]

I cant hunt in state parks, so why should my money support them?

Your money is already supporting them. Your tax money that goes to the state goes into the general fund which State Parks gets funding from.

Yea...so we should pay even more??

Under this proposal State Parks would no longer be funded by the general fund, only thru funds received from this pass.

Guess I should re-read, it was a lot to absorb....

I'm sill not for paying more because our "leaders" can't get their s*** together.

I actually disagree with you/ There are a ton of other people recreating on WDFW lands on the eastside outside of hunting seasons. It's one of the reasons why many WDFW Officers on the eastside are having to increase their patrols of agency land. The big issue lately is ATV riders and people camping.

I was referring to land NOT operated by WDFW...

I am aware that they aren't hunting fees. That is what I do on the land so they are "hunting fees" to me......if I was a bird watcher they'd be bird watching fees. 

[bigtex]

tex,


if it's not too much trouble can you break down what my hunting fee's pay for?
Not being a smart ass just unclear on the big picture here..

I "assumed" that my fee's weren't just covering the hunting season but helped to fund for the whole year...

Well if you mean your hunting license fees it applies for the entire department. The license fees go into the wildlife fund. The wildlife fund funds just about every WDFW division/operation there is. Also, the wildlife fund is not just wildlife, it quite honestly should be called the fish and wildlife fund because it funds both fish and wildlife programs not just wildlife related programs.

[Bob33]

[quote I don't think this is a Democrat/Republican issue. [/quote]
It sure looks that way to me:
SB 5622:
Ranker D
Swecker R
Fraser D
Hargrove D
White D
Regala D
Shin D
Chase D
Kline D
Conway D

Companion House Bill 1796
Van De Wege D
Takko D
Upthegrove D
Finn D
Seaquist D
Sullivan D
Liias D
Jacks D
McCoy D
Moscoso D
Hudgins D
Hunt D
Reykdal D

[bigtex]

[quote I don't think this is a Democrat/Republican issue.

It sure looks that way to me:
SB 5622:
Ranker D
Swecker R
Fraser D
Hargrove D
White D
Regala D
Shin D
Chase D
Kline D
Conway D

Companion House Bill 1796
Van De Wege D
Takko D
Upthegrove D
Finn D
Seaquist D
Sullivan D
Liias D
Jacks D
McCoy D
Moscoso D
Hudgins D
Hunt D
Reykdal D
[/quote]

You also need to remember that you need to have some Democrat support in this state in order for a bill to pass. The bill that would increase hunting and fishing license fees has bi-partisan support. If your an agency leader in this state and want a law changed what political party will have a better chance in passing a bill??? I'm pretty sure I don't have to answer that.

[Bob33]

I would not call this bi-partisan support.  One Republican sponsor out of about 20?

[raekmike]

so i currently buy a the combo hunting license and the combo fishing license and now i'll have to pay a 3rd time.
I'm currently funding the whole, lets call it "outdoor program" twice as much as someone who mountainbikes or birdwatches..
So these people will now have to pay one fee........
And I will now end up paying 3 fee's

Does anyone get what I am saying?   This really seems like complete horse   for someone in my position  

[MikeWalking]

The pass will cost $30 per year per vehicle or $10 for day use...

Who do ya trust? I don't trust the legislators...not one bit.

Just like the current Forest Service pass I imagine it's a hang tag you can use in more than one car

[bigtex]

I would not call this bi-partisan support.  One Republican sponsor out of about 20?

I am talking about the bill that would increase the hunting and fishing licenses, not the bill that would create DNR/WDFW/Parks pass. Two different bills.

[bobcat]

Swecker, good guy- he's a hunter. Lives in my area.

[bobcat]

The pass will cost $30 per year per vehicle or $10 for day use...

Who do ya trust? I don't trust the legislators...not one bit.

Just like the current Forest Service pass I imagine it's a hang tag you can use in more than one car

Yes that's what I'm assuming too.

[Bob33]

I would not call this bi-partisan support.  One Republican sponsor out of about 20?

I am talking about the bill that would increase the hunting and fishing licenses, not the bill that would create DNR/WDFW/Parks pass. Two different bills.

OK thanks.  I was referring to the $30 access permit.  WDFW gets $2.25 of the $30.  I don't think that's fair to hunters.

[bigtex]

so i currently buy a the combo hunting license and the combo fishing license and now i'll have to pay a 3rd time.
I'm currently funding the whole, lets call it "outdoor program" twice as much as someone who mountainbikes or birdwatches..
So these people will now have to pay one fee........
And I will now end up paying 3 fee's

Does anyone get what I am saying?   This really seems like complete horse   for someone in my position  

Well I don't want to sound like the a*s but it's your choice to hunt, fish and go on state lands. If you didn't want to fish then you wouldn't have to pay the fee. And I am in the same position as you, I buy all the combos

[bigtex]

I would not call this bi-partisan support.  One Republican sponsor out of about 20?

I am talking about the bill that would increase the hunting and fishing licenses, not the bill that would create DNR/WDFW/Parks pass. Two different bills.

OK thanks.  I was referring to the $30 access permit.  WDFW gets $2.25 of the $30.  I don't think that's fair to hunters.

It's not fair to hunters, fishermen, clammers, crabbers, and so on. And it's one of the things I don't like about the bill. The bill will shift funding from the general fund to essentially only this fee for State Parks, which is the reason why their % is so high.