$30 Access Permit for State Lands (WDFW, DNR, & Parks)

[bigtex]

bigtex, where are you ?

HAHA just got on

[bigtex]

Doesn't our hunting gizmo we hang on our mirrors cover the hunters? We're paying for it in our licenses, aren't we ?

This pass would replace the "hunting gizmo"/WDFW Access Decal that has been required since the late 90's on WDFW lands.

[bigtex]

Oh wait.. maybe they will use the money to hire wardens..  there goes the money raised and we are back at square one...

When this proposal came out about a month ago (it just became official today) it listed what this money would help fund. Part of it are enforcement efforts for WDFW, DNR and Parks.

[bigtex]

This is a joke. They have already stated that they will not check everyone, but that you "could" be checked.
Would that be like they "check" boat launches and actually ticket? yea, right.

Actually one of the most common tickets for WDFW Officers are for vehicles that do not have the WDFW Vehicle Use Permit which is currently required on WDFW lands.

[CAMPMEAT]

Doesn't our hunting gizmo we hang on our mirrors cover the hunters? We're paying for it in our licenses, aren't we ?

This pass would replace the "hunting gizmo"/WDFW Access Decal that has been required since the late 90's on WDFW lands.

Gotta keep everybody on their toes. So us hunters might not be paying $30 besides our regular license fees ?

[jager]

There's a whole bunch of stuff listed.....don't know how they could've packed any more in there.
It looks like they are trying to combine WDFW, DNR and Parks regardless.
Tex, do you support or oppose...and why? If you don't mind.

[bigtex]

Doesn't our hunting gizmo we hang on our mirrors cover the hunters? We're paying for it in our licenses, aren't we ?

This pass would replace the "hunting gizmo"/WDFW Access Decal that has been required since the late 90's on WDFW lands.

Gotta keep everybody on their toes. So us hunters might not be paying $30 besides our regular license fees ?

No you would have to pay your fishing and hunting license fees hen if you want to go on WDFW, DNR, Park lands you would have to pay the $30. It is kind of like how you have to pay at certain USFS trailheads. So essentially license fees + Discover Pass. If you aren't going to be on WDFW, DNR, Park lands you don't have to pay the $30.

[CAMPMEAT]

Lands that are marked ? We have WDFW,DNR lands by our cabin that has easement roads through it to get to our cabin. So, if I ride my ATV on those easement roads, do I pay ?

[bigtex]

Tex, do you support or oppose...and why? If you don't mind.

Well, I will say this. I have always thought it was weird you had to pay an access pass on WDFW lands and not on DNR lands. It is not like there is some significant difference in the makeup of DNR land VS WDFW land. Even Parks has had some fees (camping, launching boats). Personally I have no problem with the whole paying to play mentality. What I do have a problem with is moving Parks off the general fund. This will mean Parks will essentially be funded by this fee, with a couple other smaller accounts added in. So essentially if Parks is not getting enough money, they will seek an increase in the pass. And if a fee doesn't happen then more parks will close or facilities will become ineffecient. I do think there should be some type of fee for DNR, WDFW, and Parks. But I don't think any agency should base it's budget solely off of this fee.

[bigtex]

Lands that are marked ? We have WDFW,DNR lands by our cabin that has easement roads through it to get to our cabin. So, if I ride my ATV on those easement roads, do I pay ?

Unless there is something in your easement that would say you didn't have to follow these regs then you would have to pay.

[raekmike]

Lands that are marked ? We have WDFW,DNR lands by our cabin that has easement roads through it to get to our cabin. So, if I ride my ATV on those easement roads, do I pay ?

there is no way they could make you pay.....it's an easement

[jager]

there is no way they could make you pay.....it's an easement

HA HA....Right!

I don't feel that hunters and fisherman should be "supporting" state parks. I don't have a problem of pay to play but do we not pay enough?

[CAMPMEAT]

Lands that are marked ? We have WDFW,DNR lands by our cabin that has easement roads through it to get to our cabin. So, if I ride my ATV on those easement roads, do I pay ?

there is no way they could make you pay.....it's an easement

Don't forget who's trying to get more money from us, starts with a D and ends with an S .

[CAMPMEAT]

Lands that are marked ? We have WDFW,DNR lands by our cabin that has easement roads through it to get to our cabin. So, if I ride my ATV on those easement roads, do I pay ?

Unless there is something in your easement that would say you didn't have to follow these regs then you would have to pay.

Our easement was written well before any of this came up. Years and years ago. Hmm !

[bigtex]

Lands that are marked ? We have WDFW,DNR lands by our cabin that has easement roads through it to get to our cabin. So, if I ride my ATV on those easement roads, do I pay ?

Unless there is something in your easement that would say you didn't have to follow these regs then you would have to pay.

Our easement was written well before any of this came up. Years and years ago. Hmm !

Going to be something your going to have to take up with the legal people of DNR and WDFW. Or the AG's Natural Resource people