$30 Access Permit for State Lands (WDFW, DNR, & Parks)

[bobcat]

I don't think this is a Democrat/Republican issue. It's just a matter of trying to figure out a way to pay for services the state provides. They don't have the money in the budget to cover it right now, so they have to come up with it somehow. Or, shut down all state parks and any type of maintenance that is provided on WDFW and DNR lands.

You guys who are so against this fee- what would you propose the state should do in order to maintain the services they are now providing? At least with something like this, EVERYBODY pays, not just people with a hunting and/or fishing license. If you ride a mountain bike, hike, shoot guns, pick flowers, bird watch, photograph wildlife, etc. on state lands, you will now have to pay a fee. I like the idea that non-hunters will have to pay their share.

[bobcat]

Lands that are marked ? We have WDFW,DNR lands by our cabin that has easement roads through it to get to our cabin. So, if I ride my ATV on those easement roads, do I pay ?

Unless there is something in your easement that would say you didn't have to follow these regs then you would have to pay.

Our easement was written well before any of this came up. Years and years ago. Hmm !

If you're just driving a road to get to your cabin, I don't think you'd need the pass for that. But don't you ever recreate on state lands?

[CAMPMEAT]

I recreate on state lands all the time. I don't recreate on state lands. (play on words)

[bigtex]

I don't think this is a Democrat/Republican issue. It's just a matter of trying to figure out a way to pay for services the state provides. They don't have the money in the budget to cover it right now, so they have to come up with it somehow. Or, shut down all state parks and any type of maintenance that is provided on WDFW and DNR lands.

You guys who are so against this fee- what would you propose the state should do in order to maintain the services they are now providing? At least with something like this, EVERYBODY pays, not just people with a hunting and/or fishing license. If you ride a mountain bike, hike, shoot guns, pick flowers, bird watch, photograph wildlife, etc. on state lands, you will now have to pay a fee. I like the idea that non-hunters will have to pay their share.

 

[Skyvalhunter]

Definately going to be a pay to play type of thing

[raekmike]

We as hunters and fisherman already pay alot for these things....
It should be "inclusive in the license fee which we already pay"
If you don't have a hunting or fishing license than i could see charging a $30 fee to be out there doing other things like birdwatching, hiking, mountainbiking.....etc

really seems like their gonna try "double dipping" on us sportsman!....

[ICEMAN]

Definately going to be a pay to play type of thing

Vehicle licensing fee.
Hunting licensing fee.
State Hunting permits/tags
Federal migratory bird stamp.
Boat licensing fee.
Snow park permit.
National Forest Pass.
Gas Tax.


I already pay to play.

[CAMPMEAT]

Plus paying extra for our personalized plates..........
Start charging the greenies...they bitch about everything !!

[HornHoarder]

I cant hunt in state parks, so why should my money support them?

[bigtex]

I cant hunt in state parks, so why should my money support them?

Your money is already supporting them. Your tax money that goes to the state goes into the general fund which State Parks gets funding from.

[jager]

Don't know how it is on the west side but here on the east side when I'm on public lands I don't really see any recreators other than hunters..... sooooo.

Where has the money come from for all these years to maintain these lands? (DNR)

Back to the pay to play....Reinlist the 5 fee at the parks. I had no problem paying to launch or whatever.

I already pay to use WDFW lands which I may use once every couple of years and that's fine.

Take the hunters out of the equation, we already pay. And we pay for a lot. We keep getting bent over time after time.

You can't hunt in the state parks so why should a huge percentage of my "hunting fees" go to support them.

Definately going to be a pay to play type of thing

Vehicle licensing fee.
Hunting licensing fee.
State Hunting permits/tags
Federal migratory bird stamp.
Boat licensing fee.
Snow park permit.
National Forest Pass.
Gas Tax.


I already pay to play.

 

It's not up to me to bail out everyone that whines about their budget or lack thereof

Raising fees and adding taxes isn't the answer, the individual departments need to figure these things out.

This Governor and her minions are terrible for this state...

What was the 5 bucks that the state park just scammed tons of people out of? It was on some form you had to opt out of?

Charge all the folks that are bringing in the big bucks for this state............the wildlife watchers.

If I was in business and couldn't manage my finances I'd be s*** out of luck.

[jager]

I cant hunt in state parks, so why should my money support them?

Your money is already supporting them. Your tax money that goes to the state goes into the general fund which State Parks gets funding from.

Yea...so we should pay even more??

[bigtex]

I cant hunt in state parks, so why should my money support them?

Your money is already supporting them. Your tax money that goes to the state goes into the general fund which State Parks gets funding from.

Yea...so we should pay even more??

Under this proposal State Parks would no longer be funded by the general fund, only thru funds received from this pass.

[raekmike]

so what exactly is capital forest?  does it apply to there?

[bigtex]

Don't know how it is on the west side but here on the east side when I'm on public lands I don't really see any recreators other than hunters..... sooooo.

Where has the money come from for all these years to maintain these lands? (DNR)

Back to the pay to play....Reinlist the 5 fee at the parks. I had no problem paying to launch or whatever.

I already pay to use WDFW lands which I may use once every couple of years and that's fine.

Take the hunters out of the equation, we already pay. And we pay for a lot. We keep getting bent over time after time.

You can't hunt in the state parks so why should a huge percentage of my "hunting fees" go to support them.

Definately going to be a pay to play type of thing

Vehicle licensing fee.
Hunting licensing fee.
State Hunting permits/tags
Federal migratory bird stamp.
Boat licensing fee.
Snow park permit.
National Forest Pass.
Gas Tax.


I already pay to play.

 

It's not up to me to bail out everyone that whines about their budget or lack thereof

Raising fees and adding taxes isn't the answer, the individual departments need to figure these things out.

This Governor and her minions are terrible for this state...

What was the 5 bucks that the state park just scammed tons of people out of? It was on some form you had to opt out of?

Charge all the folks that are bringing in the big bucks for this state............the wildlife watchers.

If I was in business and couldn't manage my finances I'd be s*** out of luck.

I actually disagree with you/ There are a ton of other people recreating on WDFW lands on the eastside outside of hunting seasons. It's one of the reasons why many WDFW Officers on the eastside are having to increase their patrols of agency land. The big issue lately is ATV riders and people camping.

These aren't "hunting fees". They are fees to use agency lands. You can still hunt without them, just hunt on private land, or federal land.