H-S Precision Stocks

[Jason]

I've been wanting to upgrade the factory synthetic stock on my Ruger m77 MKII .300wm,
anyone have an H-S Precision stock and do you like it? any other stocks recommended?
trying to keep it below $400, I'm looking a the Pro Series Sporter in Olive/Black

[Jamieb]

This is just one opinion so take it for what it's worth, I know plenty of folks that like the HS stock but I'm not one of them.
On light kickers their fine but on a heavy kicker like the 300 win mag a HS will be brutal, From my experience HS is one of the worst at transmitting recoil back into the shooter. For $400 I'd keep a eye open for a used McMillan, my favorite is the Classic.

[Wenatcheejay]

I have to agree, McMillian is better but it is not under $400.00 new. I have an H S Tactical on my .338 RUM and it is fine with a muzzlebreak. It is also my choice for LR shooting/hunting. I chose it (H S) because it will shoot LR and I can pack it in the field despite it's weight.

[Jason]

Jamieb how much difference in recoil will the HS have over my synthetic Ruger stock?

[Drifterat]

Jamieb how much difference in recoil will the HS have over my synthetic Ruger stock?

Yeah it can't be worse than that plastic stock Ruger uses. Those things kick.

[Wenatcheejay]

What about a limbsaver pad (you can get the slip on version) to see if that makes the recoil more manageable? It is a big plus for me being 6'8.

You could try the slip on with the current stock.?.

[Jamieb]

synthetic Ruger stock compared to the HS, If your talking the ruger boat paddle(skeletonized) then the HS would be a upgrade.

[huntandjeep]

Ive got a H S one my 22/250 and its pretty nice. I also have a Hogue overmolded on my Ruger 7mm. Its not that bad to shot.

[Jason]

I looked at the McMillian Classic, nice stock,If I do the glass bedding and aluminum pillars myself,
I could get a new stock for $511 w/limbsaver pad. not sure how much the classic weighs.
My Factory synthetic stock weighs 34oz

[Jason]

synthetic Ruger stock compared to the HS, If your talking the ruger boat paddle(skeletonized) then the HS would be a upgrade.

no not the boat paddle one.

[FC]

I put a Bell & Carlson on my .308, it made a real difference in stability and felt recoil, it shoulders very naturally too and the finish so far seems impervious to rain and weather. If you torque the action screws when putting it back together after you remove it from the stock it's POI doesn't change a bit.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=289219

[longrange7mm]

Check out http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/StoreFront they have some great deals on here

[Jamieb]

This is the route I'd go

[MDGrand]

I have a HS Precision stock, thumb hole grip, shadow grassland. Similar to what you see below. I replaced the crappy Rem synthetic stock that came with my XCR II. It is a GREAT stock and used by the Marine Rem 700 snipers. Full aluminum bedding, just drop in an replace, little to no POI change. Some McMillian or B&C have to be bedded. This one is a drop in replacement. So, if you go with another stock besides HS Precision, then look into what type of beding you may have to do. For me, replacing the recoil pad is easier than bedding, hence my choice.

BUT.. I will agree with the rest on the board here.. the recoil pads them come with are ROCK HARD. I mean, brutally ROCK HARD. I put a Pachmeyer on mine when I got it, now it is perfect.

[FC]

BUT.. I will agree with the rest on the board here.. the recoil pads them come with are ROCK HARD. I mean, brutally ROCK HARD. I put a Pachmeyer on mine when I got it, now it is perfect.

That is pretty funny, B&C stocks come with a Pachmayr decelerator! They also come with an aluminum bedding block, no glass required.

[MDGrand]

Yes, but my order is a bit more specific, hence the reason I did not go with the B&C

1. I wanted a Thumb hole stock. When shooting a heavy magnum (I shoot a 300 RUM), the recoil is significant enough to have your hand travel in the the trigger guard, by having your hand behind a thumb hold grip in forces a better hand position , hence why most Lapua and 50 BMG sniper rifles have thumb hold grips.

2. The Thumb hold grip from B&C is lighter by almost a 1 lb. I believe in carry in a bit more heavier rifle in this particular caliber, helps with recoil, accuracy and a heavier rifle when hunting seems to not be prone to jitters while aiming, at least for me.

3. Again due to the thumb hole stock that I wanted, the B&C thumbold varies in fit compared to the standard Medalist, sometimes requiring epoxy bedding to really get the required fit, especially in long actions.

.... So, while I love the B&C and I do, the Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA in 300 WSM comes with one and it honestly is the best feeling stock I have in the cabinet, the Thumbole B&C is actually NOT that good when compared to others. But for Jason's purposes, it looks like he is looking for a pretty normal looking stock and you really can't go wrong with the B&C.

But if I were Jason, I would make sure with the long action 300wm, he does not have to do any additional bedding. He probably wont, due to the longevity of the cartridge and there are some military applications using the WM as a sniper rifle anyway, but I would want to be sure. easier to replace the recoil pad then bed the action.

 

[FC]

3. Again due to the thumb hole stock that I wanted, the B&C thumbold varies in fit compared to the standard Medalist, sometimes requiring epoxy bedding to really get the required fit, especially in long actions.

Who told you this? Was it the guy who sold you the HS? B&C has a CNC aluminum bedding block for most calibers and a steel one intended for use with magnums, if you just don't like them I get it but it sounds like you have been misinformed.

As for the US military using the HS? Our government always spends it's tax dollars wisely so I would never consider arguing with you on that premise 

[Jason]

 

That is pretty funny, B&C stocks come with a Pachmayr decelerator! They also come with an aluminum bedding block, no glass required.
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B&C doesn't offer an aluminum bedded block stock for The Rugers, atleast I couldn't find it on there site.

[MDGrand]

3. Again due to the thumb hole stock that I wanted, the B&C thumbold varies in fit compared to the standard Medalist, sometimes requiring epoxy bedding to really get the required fit, especially in long actions.

Who told you this? Was it the guy who sold you the HS? B&C has a CNC aluminum bedding block for most calibers and a steel one intended for use with magnums, if you just don't like them I get it but it sounds like you have been misinformed.

As for the US military using the HS? Our government always spends it's tax dollars wisely so I would never consider arguing with you on that premise 

I did my own research. I asked guys who have purchased the B&C Thubhole stock as well as talked to a local Riflesmith here in the area. Many people have a perfect fit right out of the box but for the thumbhole magnum calibers, there has been times where some epoxy bedding was required. I did not want to risk it. The riflesmith told me to go with McMillian but he had not used their thumbhole stocks and he knew the HS Precision has a real nice drop in replacement. Again, the full length alumimum bedding, weight, and overall make up is what guided me to choose the HS over the precsion. So to be clear, i really like B&C stocks.. I have one that came with my Vanguard Sub MOA, and it feels more natural when raise than any other, including the HS.. BUT, for the specific application I was after, I think the HS was the better choice.

[Lowedog]

I have 3 rifles with HS stocks and have been really happy with them.  On my Winchester Model 70 Classic in .300 Wn Mag I bought an HS and really liked the fit and finish.  

Not a great pic...i took it when I painted the barrel and action.


My other 2 rifles with HS stocks came with them.  One is a Remington 700 VSSF .223 and the other is a CZ 527 Varmint in .204.  

[Jason]

Thanks for all the great replies. what I'm looking for in a stock is a classic design around 32-40oz,
tring to keep it light, recoil is a non issue, I just want a good upgrade from the stock one.
I dont mind doing a little glass bedding myself If i have to, but I'm not paying someone to $200 to do it.
I floated the factory stock, went from 3"+ to 1" groups, but there's to much flex in the factory forarm.

[high country]

Mc Milan will be the stiffest, b&c is pretty light, but my preference for a light stock.....but will require bedding, the us sells the bedding block theory, but steel, aluminum and fiberglass have different coefficient of thermal expansions.......so I have never bought one of theirs. Brown, manners, lone wolf.....check them out too.

[Jason]

Mc Milan will be the stiffest, b&c is pretty light, but my preference for a light stock.....but will require bedding, the us sells the bedding block theory, but steel, aluminum and fiberglass have different coefficient of thermal expansions.......so I have never bought one of theirs. Brown, manners, lone wolf.....check them out too.

Lone Wolf has some nice stocks, not sure I want to run a 15-22oz stock though   probably bounce the scope off my head  

[Huntboy]

These are just a little heavier than you want, but here's the link.

http://www.greybullprecision.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6&Itemid=6

[MDGrand]

My HS Precision:

[Jason]

These are just a little heavier than you want, but here's the link.

http://www.greybullprecision.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6&Itemid=6

I looked there before, the only stocks they have are for 700 actions.