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WDFW Points Bank Bill
« on: February 07, 2011, 06:10:48 PM »
Please support our “WDFW” Points Bank Bill.

This grass roots bill would allow a hunter who has invested in the WDFW Big Game lottery "special permit drawing” system to list beneficiaries for a once in a life time, due to disability, or by death transfer of their points collected in the lottery system. Why are we currently allowing the state to make off with our hard earned investments if we die? Insurance companies, Investment companies and Banks are regulated for this but the State can just walk away free and clear.

Contact your local legislatures and make some noise!
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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2011, 09:59:03 PM »
This is something that I would not support.  It is a lottery system not an insurance company.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2011, 10:07:54 PM by Bigshooter »
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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2011, 10:06:23 PM »
I agree with bigshooter. This is not what we need, even more complications added to an already complicated point sytem.

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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2011, 05:26:39 AM »
It is not complicated at all. It is our right. The state already tracks everyone's points. When I die, I want to pass on my legacy and give my kids an opportunity that I have invested a lifetime in. It is not just a lottery. What lottery gives you quantitative points when you gamble your money away? If you want to give yours away, I'll take it!
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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2011, 05:31:28 AM »
I am on the fence on this as I do see value in the money and time spent on "points" but I also believe it is the luck of the draw and it would make it much harder for any new applicants to get drawn.

I doubt I would support it and won't contacting anyone at this time.




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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2011, 05:32:17 AM »
Not for me.  Too many people would list the Agnews of the world for ... the goodness of their hearts!  Let's not turn the drawings into another auction.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2011, 05:40:09 AM »
Not for me.  Too many people would list the Agnews of the world for ... the goodness of their hearts!  Let's not turn the drawings into another auction.

 :yeah:

I didn't even think about that. I am not on the fence anymore. I would not support this.
I can just hear it now.  "But I don't have any family members that hunt. Can I pass my points on to..?" As money is passed from one to the other. Nope, not a good idea.




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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2011, 06:03:22 AM »
I would agree with it if it were passed on to ones immediate relative. Especially if a guy ended up with a terminal disease and he wanted to pass on his dream hunt to a family member.
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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2011, 06:44:49 AM »
Not for me.  Too many people would list the Agnews of the world for ... the goodness of their hearts!  Let's not turn the drawings into another auction.
  :yeah:
Beside as the op stated we've invested our hard earned money and time into this, and I feel everyone else should have to also. I like it the way it is with an even playing field.
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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2011, 06:48:36 AM »
Not for me. Solution is don't die before you get drawn.

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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2011, 08:43:19 AM »
Not for me either.

It is not complicated at all. It is our right.

Why do you say it's our right? We don't even have a "right" to hunt in this state. It is a priviledge.
This doesn't make any sense to me.



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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2011, 08:57:18 AM »
My view is you paid for the opportunity to draw a permit and when you are not drawn you are given a point.  Therefore you own the point(s).  They should be transferrable only upon death of the point holder.  I also would prefer to have them transferrable only to immediate family members.  I'm kind of surprised by the responses since we are paying for the system and for the so called game management in this state and most seem to think that our family members should not benefit from what we have paid. 

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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2011, 09:02:39 AM »
They need to do away with the damn point system anyway............  :bash:  >:(
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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2011, 09:04:59 AM »
YellowDog- it wouldn't be fair, simple as that. A person should have to build up their own points. I think it's crazy to even consider that points be transferable. If they did to something like this it also would not be fair that the points only be transferred to family members. What if the person has no family member who could use the points? And how would the WDFW verify the beneficiary actually was a family member? As I said before, we don't need to make it more complicated than it already is.

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Re: WDFW Points Bank Bill
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2011, 09:11:16 AM »
YellowDog- it wouldn't be fair, simple as that. A person should have to build up their own points. I think it's crazy to even consider that points be transferable. If they did to something like this it also would not be fair that the points only be transferred to family members. What if the person has no family member who could use the points? And how would the WDFW verify the beneficiary actually was a family member? As I said before, we don't need to make it more complicated than it already is.
So its more fair for you to pay for something and never actually get anything in return?  Okay, your entitled to your opinion.  Wanna buy me something?  Maybe you could just give me $6 a year (times what is it now 13 different categories for deer and elk permits).  I promise I won't transfer it to anyone else and I will spend the money on myself.  I may have a different perspective than most because I work in the legal field administering estate's of people that have died.  Basically, my point is that if you pay a fee and receive something in return (points) you own them and you should decide what will happen to them when you die.  

 


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