Alkali

[wannahunt]

Thanks Bobcat? That a bummer thou. That was a nice place to hunt.

[wannahunt]

Just got off the phone with fish and game. The guy told me that the military cut the hunts because they have planned maneuvers through the whole hunting season.

[Curly]

Their planned manuevers probably involve the military guys taking some trophy mulies !

That does sound a little better than the deer population being so low that WDFW had to scap the season though.

[CJ-5]

Yeah i figured it had to do with military operations when i called friday and the fish and wildlife guy couldnt give me a good reason.  Definitely a better reason than having low populations!

[wannahunt]

Hopefully that means we are back in next year. I had a hard time with the low numbers. i saw a lot of deer in there this year. I still don't understand the Quilomene tags being reduced thou. I saw a lot of deer in ther two years ago but they got rid of alot of the buck tags and all the youth anterless hunts. Quite a reduction.

[kirkl]

That sucks, i was gonna put that down as my last choice with 11 points this year.  Im tired of not getting drawn.

[Dman]

 OK, I thought about this one and I'm a little confused about this situation. I have hunted military post's in the past, namely Ft. Lewis and the ONLY time I have ever heard of an area the size of the YTC closing down indefinitely was, well, ... never. There was a time when Ft. Lewis went to accompanied hunting only for certain areas after 2001, active military escort required, but there were still areas of it open to enescorted hunting even then. I have to say, with the possible season time-slot of September to December and the hundred's of square miles involved in the hunt at the YTC, you can't convince me that SOME type of minimal season could be held for 2008, even in a few select units, I've never even heard of them having maneuvers in the northern most units  . I won't put in for this tag again, I wouldn't want to risk wasting points on a "ghost hunt" given this years' event's, the DFW does not have to credit your points back if you cannot gain access, not worth it. 

[klickriverchromer]

better luck for me then ha haa ha aahhaa

[Dman]

Yeah i figured it had to do with military operations when i called friday and the fish and wildlife guy couldnt give me a good reason.  Definitely a better reason than having low populations!

 I guess I don't follow that. To me the only valid reason for closure is to protect the resource, loss of opportunity is loss of opportunity. I didn't put in for this hunt for the last couple years as it was, I don't have personally selfish interest's as far as that goes, but I've been consistent about preserving current opportunities, as well as adding new ones. It wouldn't bother me as much, if I didn't know that "private hunts" do happen on post's during "public closures". When areas of Ft. Lewis were completely closed to public access, it so happened they were the choicest hunting units and also, base personnel were still allowed to hunt those areas exclusively for several years. Perhaps the public should be able to have more input on how these post's recreation opportunities are managed, just like State, or NF land's, after all they were ultimately purchased with taxpayer dollar's and these thing's could at least be communicated better to the public, as opposed to finding out online the day of applying.

[wannahunt]

The guy i talked to at fish and game said it was because of the amount of live fire they would be doing. He also said they were working on a new release that would explain the closure. When I asked about next year all he said was that he hoped we would be back in. 

[Dman]

 

 I have to laugh a little, to drop that much ordinance over 480 square miles for four months straight would cost us about 5 billion to begin with, I don't know if I buy that, if it's true it's scary.