Rare glimpse at an ex-world record. The Fred Welder Bighorn 208 1/8

[jackelope]

On this monitor I can read the sign under it.

It says...
Washington Chapter
FNAWS
Federation for North American Wild Sheep
Reproduction of the Idaho State Record
Found in Hells Canyon 1986(maybe 1986 anyway)
197 7/8 B/C

[blacktailer]

Wow Jack, what a Toad. The Snake River Breaks would also be up there with units capable  producing 200 inch rams.   Whoever did the reproducttions and taxidermy work also did a nice job.  Thanks for sharing. 

[jackelope]

Thanks. That little museum honoring Jack OConnor is a great little place. I would encourage anyone passing through Lewiston to stop in and check it out, especially if you like big rams.

[blacktailer]

When I went to school at the U of I back in the early 90's they also had a tribute to Jack O' Conner in the natural histroy building with quite a display there also.  Have these items been moved down to Lewiston or are there two separate museums???

[jackelope]

I really don't know. This place is a building just off the parking lot at Hell's Gate State Park if I remember correctly. I've got a bunch of pics of the mounts on my pooter at home. I should start a new thread. I did a thread a long time ago but I see I deleted the pics out of my photobucket account. Lots of Africa stuff, all sorts of sheep, some bomber muleys, etc. There's a few of his rifles there, a couple of bows made out of sheep horn(neat). I will post some more pics tonight if I get a chance in a new thread.

[GoldTip]

I am not sure the rams around the Plains/Thompson Falls area's carry their mass quite as well as the Missouri Breaks/Cadomin rams do, which I think gives them a leg up on creating more of the 200" rams.  The last ram I heard killed over or right at 200" around Thompson Falls was back in the early 90's I believe.  If I recall correctly the Cadomin rams came from the Missouri breaks herd, or the other way around, not sure which it was, anyone else know?  

This ram posted at the start of the thread is incredible.  Give me a shot and a tag at a 180 ram and I'll be quivering in my boots!

[blacktailer]

I think you may be right Goldtip.  Thomplson Falls area was the ticket back in the 90's.  I remember seeing a pics of a couple of native killed rams that came off the Flathead Res. (if I remember right)  they were both supposedly over 200 but I could not confirm.  Cadomin and Missouri Breaks seem to be the ticket these days.  I was not aware that the Cadomin rams came from the Breaks.  I would have thought just the opposite???

[big t]

Hello,
  I'm writing this in reference to the big horn taken by Fred Welder. This persons last name was spelled Weiler not Welder. If you look the ram up in the BC record book you will see it was also misspelled (Weiller). I had a chance to have this head several years ago but couldn't take it across the Canadian border without proof of ownership or record of licenses. Yes the head did burn up in a house fire.
  I am not meaning to offend anyone by writing this and I'm sorry if I did. The reason I have knowledge of this beautiful sheep is because I'm the nephew of Fred Weiler. In fact my dad as a younger brother of Fred helped butcher this sheep.

[C-Money]

Thanks for the info big t, and welcome to the site!!

[starbailey]

Neat info and pics. Thanks all for sharing.

[MLBowhunting]