Revised Permit Totals for March 4-5th meeting

[dreamingbig]

Looks like they are piling on the yakima herd with increased permit levels...  A TON of anterless opportunities for modern firearm; an additional 450 modern firearm cow permits to be exact.

Bull Permit Increases

Peaches Ridge 
EF  98 to 120; +22
EM 17 to 20; +3
EA  74 to 81; +7

Goose Prairie
EF 55 to 77; +22
EM 8 to 13; +5
EA 60 to 70; +10

Observatory
EF 52 to 63; +11
EA

Anterless Increases

Little Naches
EF 75 to 150; +75

Rimrock
EF 50 to 200; +150

Manatash
EF 100 to 250; +150

Taneum
EF 75 to 150; +75

[Maverick]

why do they think have to kill everything? Let the herd grow so the hunting gets even better! Howd do they expect to grow good herds, and big bulls when they give out so many damn permits???

[Ridgerunner]

where did you get these?

[dreamingbig]

They don't make it easy and I think that is by design.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2011/03/mar0511_17a_deer_elk.pdf

[Elkaholic daWg]

   Now  would this be the answer to folks that double draw an elk   (Bull/Quality/Antlerless) permit and must eat one of them? As that article said..only 257 out of 397 S/P hunters actually hunted their permits!

http://sportsyakima.com/2011/02/elk-count-shows-strength-in-numbers/

[bobcat]

That's nothing- did you look at the increase in cow elk permits for the St. Helens herd?   

[dreamingbig]

Yes, I did see that.  They obviously don't want to commit to the current size of the St. Helen's herd.

[Bigshooter]

Yes, I did see that.  They obviously don't want to commit to the current size of the St. Helen's herd.

That's because there is NO winter range.  There have been several hard winters with winter kill.  A few years ago they said they were going to reduce the size of the St. Helen's herd.  They have up'd tag numbers and and some extra seasons.  But this year it is by far there biggest increase in tags for the St. Helens herd.

[gasman]

I don't remember the exact number, but the percentage of permit holders that are success full is not very high.
I'm pretty sure it is under 50%.

[KopperBuck]

I don't remember the exact number, but the percentage of permit holders that are success full is not very high.
I'm pretty sure it is under 50%.

That's a large range, and there are numbers in that range that I would consider to be a high percentage. What are you thinking specifically?

[gasman]

I don't remember the exact number, but the percentage of permit holders that are success full is not very high.
I'm pretty sure it is under 50%.

That's a large range, and there are numbers in that range that I would consider to be a high percentage. What are you thinking specifically?

My thoughts are, if teh success rate is lets say 50%. If they increase the permits by 50, then on average only 25 more animals would be harvested.
25, bug deal, the yotes and cougars take more then that a year.

I don't see these numbers as a big threat to our herds 

Many people  when the permits get reduced and some  when they get increased. To me, its not a huge deal, maybe it woul dgive me that .01% better chance of drawing, maybe not.

 

[DeerThug]

Like that is a big increase.  Sitting on the biggest herd there has been, tons of bulls.  At least 90 more paying hunters will have a chance at a bull before the winter tribal kill begins.

[Elkaholic daWg]

 Yeah but 3/4 of the tribal kill is over before winter. Did the commission approve these numbers?

[dreamingbig]

Did anyone go to the meeting?

[ramslam]

I was there.