You want a bad ass rifle?

[Hornseeker]

How about that Mod 70 I have? Tell me this... what kind of accurracy might I get if I just used the action as is? None of the blueprinting? Any thoughts on this 721 action?

Why do you need to flute the bolt?

A full blueprint job will entail recutting the threads, recutting the locking lugs, receiver face, and bolt face.

Sorry to be a pain, but what does all this do for you? I cannot envision how the action has so much to do with accurracy compared to the chamber and barrel??

Thanks RBros!!

[MtnMuley]

I'm not trying to answer for rbros, as he's on a different level (by a long shot) than me, but personally, your mdl 70 action will work just fine.  You don't "need" a fluted bolt.  Personally, I'd flute mine for reducing weight more than anything.  Curious as to what kind of "long range" shooting you plan on doing with this build?  These guns rbros is taking about, are the guns that most guys dream of having built, aka, the best of the best.

[Hornseeker]

Yeah, i see that MT...  They are dam nice.

Honestly... I would like to have something that I can spend the time, get a load worked up, get to know the gun... then be able to shoot a Lope or a Muley "confidently" at say...500-800 or more yards. My elk hunting does not provide long shots, so I'll stick with my mountain gun for that... unless I start elk hunting somewhere else!

I just think it would be fun to have a gun capable of 1000yd accurracy...

Rbros.... nice looking machines there. I didn't see anything about your actions though... are those mostly all McMillan stocks?

[rbros]

More has to do with the face of the action being true to the centerline and full lug contact.  In my testing of doing one thing at a time, that was the largest improvement of accuracy.  I did a test awhile back. Same barrel, same reamer.  I did one thing at a time and tested for accuracy.  I would get flamed in the benchrest community, but facing the action and recutting the lugs to full contact made the most improvement.  Think of it this way, you have a pefect chamber cut true to the bore with the barrel threads also cut true to the bore.  Then you screw it onto a receiver that has the face out of alignment and threads out alignment.  There will be bind somewhere that will affect accuracy.  Keep in mind, that everything is kept within .0002" of center.  That's 2 tenths of 1 thousandth.  The chamber does play the majority role in accuracy, no question about that, but to squeeze the full potential out, everything else needs to be inline as well.  Everything is based of the centerline more or less.  Hopefully I explained that to make sense.  Its easier for me to think it than write it down. 

For example, this rifle has next to zero runout in the chamber(I strive for .0002" or less at the rear of the chamber, this is where the most runout will be).  Meaning its is perfectly inline with the bore.  Here are the results.  This is 15 shots during the breakin period off a bipod on the ground.  This is shoot one, clean, shoot again, then a couple of 3 shot groups.  She does the same thing at 500, with the groups opening up to just over 1.25"


We haven't had a chance to update the website yet to include the actions.  My brother is working on it, but is teaching himself web development along the way.  We use mainly Manners Stocks on our builds, but will also use McMillan if requested.  They just take longer to get and usually run a little heavier.

[rbros]

Oh, most guys flute the bolts for looks.  It does take off a little weight, but not enough to make a huge difference.  It does however give somewhere for dust and crud to go so a guy doesn't have to worry about the bolt binding up.  Mainly its a cosmetic deal.

I have rebarreled a couple of Mod70's.  I always squared the face and lapped the lugs in on them.  They shot just fine.  1/2moa or less generally with a good barrel on them.  I have since stopped working on them due to the fact I had to keep making tooling because of the incosistencies with them.  I pretty much just work on Remington's and custom actions now due to time and tooling savings.

[Hornseeker]

Thanks MUCH Rbros....

That is a nice group!!!!!

[longrange7mm]

One other thing to think about is the MOD 70 might be a little to short for the OAL of the edge or RUM

You can build a gun off a rem 700 or your 70 to do what your wanting to do hornseeker 

rbros thats a damn nice group

[Hornseeker]

I wonder if there is ANY market for the M70 original stock and barrel???

[MtnMuley]

Sure there is.  I had a friend just the other day looking for a stock for a Mdl 70.  He found one on the internet.  Also, I'm assuming your barrel is blued, and those tended to rust if not taken care of.  If yours was in good shape, I could easily see somebody interested looking to replace their rusted one.

[jackelope]

is that 15 shots in .74"
Holy hell...

[jackelope]

I wonder if there is ANY market for the M70 original stock and barrel???

You'll see them for sale on 24hourcampfire.com all the time. I'm sure there's got to be other places as well.

[Hornseeker]

Maybe I'll take her apart and start parting her out...

[Antlershed]

I couldn't imagine spending $1800 for just an action. Hell, I am into my sendero about $2500, which includes the scope, and I was out shooting today at 1425 yards. My limiting factor now is my scope adjustment. I need a 50 moa base.