Mule deer permit hunt

[grundy53]

And a lot of guys that have high numbers of points have them because they only put in for drawings that they have very very low odds of being drawn for and not cow tags (atleast before they split up the categories).  I'm like you though. I draw every few years. But thats because I put in for higher percentage drawings.

[carpsniperg2]

wonder y they never get drawn. i suppose i would be bitter too.

I draw about every couple of years. But some people just arn't lucky I guess.

[rtspring]

Sure it is better to have some points built up to help draw a special tag, but in the end you need to be very lucky.  And some people just don't have alot of luck.

[bobcat]

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What I'm really interested in seeing this year will be the "Buck Deer" category and how that plays out. Will permits that folks drew with 4-5 points now take 7-8 to draw? We shall see.

I think permits in the Buck category will be harder to draw than Quality permits, on average, because there are less permits available.

[jackelope]

wonder y they never get drawn. i suppose i would be bitter too.

I draw about every couple of years. But some people just arn't lucky I guess.

You guys drawing every couple years are not putting in for the premier tags that the guys who haven't drawn permits in many years of applying are. Granted there's a little luck involved, but the more times your name is in the pot, the better your odds of drawing are.
What deer permits are you applying for that you're drawing every couple years?

[grundy53]

wonder y they never get drawn. i suppose i would be bitter too.

I draw about every couple of years. But some people just arn't lucky I guess.

You guys drawing every couple years are not putting in for the premier tags that the guys who haven't drawn permits in many years of applying are. Granted there's a little luck involved, but the more times your name is in the pot, the better your odds of drawing are.
What deer permits are you applying for that you're drawing every couple years?

That was the point I was trying to make. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

[jackelope]

I don't get where the mystery is in it.
 

[link]

A bunch of points helps out your odds. But they're just that odds. Its not like other states where they give out the permits to the highest point guys. Hell, a couple of years ago, the year that they took a couple of big bucks during the archery season on the YTC, I put in for the rifle tag with 12 points, and did not draw. Thats what, 144 names in the hat, and I didn't draw a tag that some of my buddies have drawn two years in a row, a couple of different times.

[WAmuleyHunter]

I also think guys when they get up in their points just start applying for one unit. That coupled with being a low odds unit for a premier hunt drastically reduces your chances.  And also depends on how your luck is running. 

[rosscrazyelk]

what i don't understand is how do all you guys have all these points 9, 16, 23, and so on. Ive been putting in 4 permits since 1999 and the most points Ive ever had for deer was 3 and for elk was 4. Ive drew buck tags, doe tags, and cow tags, never a bull. but nevertheless i still drew. Ive drew 2 natches cows with a rifle. a bumping cow with a front stuffer. and a Margarette cow archery last year. ever outher year or so i would get drawn for a deer permit. right know i have 3 points for deer so honestly I'm optimistic for a deer tag. I'm i out of my mind. once again how do you guys have all these points. my buddy has 7 points down the board but he has the post points out of ne body i know. I'm really excited for him to get drawn.

This was not for deer but I had 14 points when I finally got drawn. One reason was I only put in one choice so my chances were never good.  I know someone who has over 30

[jharstad]

i understand what u all are saying. i did just put in for the high percentage hunts but i also put in for one of two of the more quality hunts. for me getting drawn period means I'm going to have a quality hunt. Ive shot alot of deer nothing big. s small 3 point on the eastside, and a bunch of spike and does on the west side, and 4 tasty fat cow elk. me and my family look forward to the meat in the freezer every year, yes horns look great on the wall (and one of this days i will put some there) but they don't taste very good. to me theirs alot to be said on constantly harvesting animals. just my 

[remington300mag]

I also think guys when they get up in their points just start applying for one unit. That coupled with being a low odds unit for a premier hunt drastically reduces your chances.  And also depends on how your luck is running. 

This is exactly why I now have 26 points for deer!! 10 poacher points.... plus I have never drew the one tag I want so I have 16 regular points this year! Every year I say it has got to be my year....just to be let down every year!

[Bigshooter]

i understand what u all are saying. i did just put in for the high percentage hunts but i also put in for one of two of the more quality hunts. for me getting drawn period means I'm going to have a quality hunt. Ive shot alot of deer nothing big. s small 3 point on the eastside, and a bunch of spike and does on the west side, and 4 tasty fat cow elk. me and my family look forward to the meat in the freezer every year, yes horns look great on the wall (and one of this days i will put some there) but they don't taste very good. to me theirs alot to be said on constantly harvesting animals. just my 

I put meat in the freezer every year on otc tags.  I save my points for horns not meat.

[CJ-5]

You say you feel fairly confident in drawing, because you have 9 points? Well then you must not understand how bad your odds really are. The Pearrygin had 1854 applications for 15 permits last year for odds of 1 in 124. That means you should expect to draw once in 124 years of applying. If you've only applied for 9 years you have a long way to go. The problem is there are lots of people with just as many points as you have, or more. Many people will have 16 points this year. So your 9 points really doesn't help you a whole lot. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it's the truth. If you want a little better odds apply for Chewuch. It was 1 in 66 last year, so almost twice as much chance of drawing as the Pearrygin.

Bobcat, who cares if the guy only has 9 points or not.  There is nothing wrong with having some hope and being optimistic.  The question was about what unit to possibly put in for, not to go off on how bad the drawing odds are. 
To answer the question I think the Pearrygin tag would be a good one to put in for if you want a good buck.  Put in and hope for the best!

[Alan K]

i understand what u all are saying. i did just put in for the high percentage hunts but i also put in for one of two of the more quality hunts. for me getting drawn period means I'm going to have a quality hunt. Ive shot alot of deer nothing big. s small 3 point on the eastside, and a bunch of spike and does on the west side, and 4 tasty fat cow elk. me and my family look forward to the meat in the freezer every year, yes horns look great on the wall (and one of this days i will put some there) but they don't taste very good. to me theirs alot to be said on constantly harvesting animals. just my 

I put meat in the freezer every year on otc tags.  I save my points for horns not meat.