Non FFL gun sales...how do you feel?

[Jamieb]

I've bought and sold privately and never did a bill of sale. I've even sold a couple of rifles to members of this site

[carpsniperg2]

Its always a good idea to do a bill of sale just incase. It takes about 2mins to do and covers your butt!

[bobcat]

I've only sold a few guns and I've never done any bill of sale either, never even got a name or anything. If I wrote up a bill of sale I'd just lose it anyway. 

I'm not too worried about it. But I could see where you might want to do so if dealing with shady characters.

[Lowedog]

Another thought I have had is if they ever ban ARs and I have one registered in my name I no longer own will they want to search for it? 

[lazydrifter]

A long rifle is not registered to you.  Only a handgun.  If you run a serial # on a long gun it will not give them your name.   When a gun is purchased at a dealer a background check is done to see if you can legally purchase it.

[Heredoggydoggy]

The way I was told, if a gun is recovered that was used in a crime, or stolen, the only thing the authorities can do is 1: Contact the manufacturer of the gun. 2: The maufacturer will tell them who the distributer is that they sent the gun to.  3:  The distributer will tell them what gun shop the gun was sold to. 4:  The gun shop will tell them who the individual was that the gun was sold to.  That's usually the end of the paper trail.  One time a gun was recovered by the police, and they called the last known owner.  They asked him if he wanted his gun back.  He told them that he sold the gun several years ago.  The policeman said; "That's not what we're asking!--DO YOU WANT YOUR GUN BACK?"  The guy said "Heck, yeah!"

[Todd_ID]

I once sold a handgun to a guy i work with. I went to the states website (i think) and downloded a gun transfer form. Then i had him sign it gave him a copy and mailed it to Olympia.

When I bought my AR a month ago I used the local hardware store for the FFL transfer of the lower.  They had me fill out the WA state paperwork for pistols as well as the normal long gun background check paperwork.  They said the state handles long guns without barrels the same as pistols, so your lower may be registered with the state to you the same as a pistol if you got in WA through an FFL.  You might want to follow this suggestion above.

[Heredoggydoggy]

I think whatever the state law is, it's irrelevant.  Say you buy a gun, then move out of state and take the gun with you.  It's the Federal Gun Laws you have to worry about.  If an AR stripped lower is sold as a pistol lower, it can never be used legally as a rifle lower.  You stick a buttstock on it, and it's in violation of Federal Law.  If the lower is sold as a rifle lower, it can not be made into an AR pistol.  Again a violation of Federal Law.  For that reason, most, if not all manufacturers of AR pistols are plainly stamping the lower "Pistol Only".

[ICEMAN]

To solve all your worries, never ever sell any gun, keep them all. 

[KeeKeeBlamo]

I'm with ICEMAN why are you selling your guns. I wanna keep all mine.

[machine]

I have sold a lot of guns that I bought new.  I have never done a bill of sale for any of them.  I would not lose a second of sleep selling to anyone that I thought could legally own a gun.  If its used in a crime and you are worried about getting in trouble about it then you worry to much.  

[Mookie]

If an AR stripped lower is sold as a pistol lower, it can never be used legally as a rifle lower.  You stick a buttstock on it, and it's in violation of Federal Law. Again a violation of Federal Law.  For that reason, most, if not all manufacturers of AR pistols are plainly stamping the lower "Pistol Only".

Not true. According to law if a pistol has a stock installed, must be done after a 16+'' barrel is installed or the barrel removed otherwise it is considered an SBR, it is then considered a rifle and THEN cannot be changed to a handgun. Same as if it were a 1911, Glock, 10/22 Charger, T/C.