What would you do with 23 elk points?

[pianoman9701]

Touttle

[halflife65]

I'm not sure how true that is - you'd think that one would've been all over the place if there were any truth to it.

They square your points, so 23 points is 529 entries as opposed to a guy with 8 points that has 64 entries.

At any rate, you have a much better chance than most (maybe everyone) to draw.

BLUES.

Q: I heard that the points have multipliers on them. What is that for?
A: Some permit drawing systems are designed so that one random number is issued for each point built up for the species by the applicant. It is the same as having one card in the barrel for each point (one point - one card, two points - two cards, etc.).

Washington's system places a multiplier on the points. The number of points is squared and it is this number of random numbers that are issued to the application (or number of cards in the barrel). If a person applies for an elk permit for the first time, they have one card in the barrel. If a person has built up two points, they have four cards in the barrel. If a person has three points built up, nine cards are in the barrel and so on.

Placing a multiplier on the points more noticeably increases the chances of being selected over someone who is a new applicant or was recently awarded a permit.

[jackmaster]

OK FELLAS, i couldnt handle it and neither could another fella from this site and he called the wdfw and its all B.S. it was just a rumor that was started and the lady said it would almost be impossible for someone to rig the drawing, there would have to be alot of employees in on it, and i doubt they could keep somethn like that under wraps. sorry for jackn your thread, good luck with the drawing, i would also have to put in for the blues.

[NRA4LIFE]

I would adopt NRA4LIFE and then put in as a group with your new found son.

[Bob33]

I usually don't jump in on these posts, but i'm pretty sure this is incorrect.  Its been a while since I took statistics, but having 30 chances doesn't change your odds proportionately.  The odds are still 1 in 177 for each drawing (except, as you point out, are reduced by the names in the hat that were removed by the individual getting drawn for the preceeding permit).

There are 30 permits to be given out in this hypothetic example.  Assuming they are drawn one by one, the chance of getting the first one drawn is about 1 in 177.  If you don't get the first one drawn, you get another 1 in 177 chance and so forth until all 30 have been drawn.  Your odds are therefore much better than 1 in 177.  That would be the case if there was one tag and you had 529 of the 94,000 names in the hat.

[400out]

I usually don't jump in on these posts, but i'm pretty sure this is incorrect.  Its been a while since I took statistics, but having 30 chances doesn't change your odds proportionately.  The odds are still 1 in 177 for each drawing (except, as you point out, are reduced by the names in the hat that were removed by the individual getting drawn for the preceeding permit).

There are 30 permits to be given out in this hypothetic example.  Assuming they are drawn one by one, the chance of getting the first one drawn is about 1 in 177.  If you don't get the first one drawn, you get another 1 in 177 chance and so forth until all 30 have been drawn.  Your odds are therefore much better than 1 in 177.  That would be the case if there was one tag and you had 529 of the 94,000 names in the hat.

ouch! those numbers hurt Please don't do the numbers on my odds 

[BENCHLEG]

i wish you luck. but please put in for the west side,    maybe this will be my lucky year if you stay away from the east drawing.

[AlpineMuley]

I wish you the best of luck on a wet side tag.   

[6x6in6]

Maybe I missed it but nobody has suggested a Colockum unit yet?   

Understanding that your odds are substantially better to the point you could almost say no one has better odds, they still suck!!!!!
If it were me.........
Got pack stock?  Going to pop for a guide?  If yes to either, the Wenaha's rifle rut would be #1 and #2.
Got pack stock and 1 friend?  Watershed would be #3.
Dayton would also make the short list.  Nooksack might make the short list.
Roosie's?  No clue.  I don't do the wet........

[gonehuntin68]

No elk in the blues hunt the west

[Bob33]

I usually don't jump in on these posts, but i'm pretty sure this is incorrect.  Its been a while since I took statistics, but having 30 chances doesn't change your odds proportionately.  The odds are still 1 in 177 for each drawing (except, as you point out, are reduced by the names in the hat that were removed by the individual getting drawn for the preceeding permit).

There are 30 permits to be given out in this hypothetic example.  Assuming they are drawn one by one, the chance of getting the first one drawn is about 1 in 177.  If you don't get the first one drawn, you get another 1 in 177 chance and so forth until all 30 have been drawn.  Your odds are therefore much better than 1 in 177.  That would be the case if there was one tag and you had 529 of the 94,000 names in the hat.

ouch! those numbers hurt Please don't do the numbers on my odds 

The numbers do hurt.  Unfortunately the good tags are very difficult to draw, even with lots of points.  For a hunt with 30 permits and 1700 applicants, it doesn’t take much math expertise to see that 1670 won’t get drawn…

Having lots of points increases the odds, but it does not assure a tag.

[TeacherMan]

I've know guy with 4points that have got a rimrok tag and three years late a peaches so I guess some are just lucky

I got Peaches with 1 point!!!  Oh, I forgot to say I had Observatory the year before 

[whacker1]

I think I would look at the Quinalt 1 rifle early permit if modern is your weapon of choice for the Rosie you said you were interested in.  But you might want to go after the Oregon Rosie and Blue Mountains for WA. 

[400out]

I drew last year so I wish you all the best of luck 

[elkslayer069]

East side for sure stay outta the westside not worth the points if you got that many