new info on 4 pt restriction

[Hangfire]

While attending the Spokane sports show yesterday, I received some new information on part of the reason behind the 4 point restriction proposal. I was talking to a high ranking sports club member. I was told the 4 point restriction is almost a done deal. There is one commission member that has political ambitions. He has large land owner friends that want the 4 point restriction. A scratch my back and I will help you situation. This is the second time I have heard this from two independent sources.

According to the information there is one commissioner on the fence, the remaining ones are split 50/50. I was told know is the time for your feelings to be passed to the commission and the governors office. All the WDFW people I have talked to are against the proposal.

[Sneaky]

Am I the only one who doesn't see a lack of bucks in the NE? I get into big bucks every year and have only ever harvested one decent one. They are there, just smarter than the average bear, which I think the trail cam forum has proven.

All I can see coming of this is lost revenue and 3 point deer hitting the dirt and rotting.

[Miles]

While attending the Spokane sports show yesterday, I received some new information on part of the reason behind the 4 point restriction proposal. I was talking to a high ranking sports club member. I was told the 4 point restriction is almost a done deal. There is one commission member that has political ambitions. He has large land owner friends that want the 4 point restriction. A scratch my back and I will help you situation. This is the second time I have heard this from two independent sources.

Very interesting....but not surprising. 

[BULLBLASTER]

here we go again...

[buck man]

 :)bring it on!  I hope it happens!

[bearpaw]

I have been involved in this discussion for about 6 to 8 years and I used to oppose it. I openly agreed with Steve Zender before his retirement at the Advisory Committee meeting. But things have changed much since then. Our deer are probably at only 40% in numbers of what they were then. Right now we need this to build deer numbers.

What amazes me is that so many people say antler point restrictions will not work in NE WA, and many of the same people support some type of antler point restriction in another part of the state. 

The Bighon Show is put on by the INWC which is a great group, but they have opposed this from the time they heard about it and my thoughts are this is just a rumor created to undermine the 4pt APR.

I do not know of any such motivation regarding this rule. It started as a grass roots effort from Stevens county residents.

[Skyvalhunter]

You have to figure enough people complaining and writing letters is going to make someone take note.

[BULLBLASTER]

:)bring it on!  I hope it happens!

so do I! but i thought this thread would explode like the last one.

[Armadillo]

oh god I just see the scouting pics of all the dead three pts that'll turn up 

[muleyguy]

antler pt restrictions are just a gimmick move that does not solve the underlying problem;  antler point restrictions just shift the deer harvest from 1.5 yr old animals to 2.5 yr old animals, and there is ample evidence that it actually reduces the number of mature bucks.

the only state that even uses them anymore in the West is WA;  that should tell you something right there; 

if you want to solve the problem of low buck numbers and/or low numbers of mature bucks in the population, then you need to restrict the harvest of the animals;

a much better strategy is to not put antler pt restrictions in, but, rather restrict tag numbers;

but, the WDFW and all the hunters in this state all want to think there is some silver bullet to fix things without the hard medicine of reduced opportunities

[NWBREW]

Am I the only one who doesn't see a lack of bucks in the NE? I get into big bucks every year and have only ever harvested one decent one. They are there, just smarter than the average bear, which I think the trail cam forum has proven.

All I can see coming of this is lost revenue and 3 point deer hitting the dirt and rotting.

I agree. People will be shooting without thinking that it might not have eyeguards. The area I hunt (for 20+years) is "Any buck" but I don't hunt it till the Late hunt. I Hunt for a week at a time and am always seeing bucks.......of all sizes, so I'm not sure if it will help or not. It will make it a little tougher on road hunters.  

[hokey97]

they should let youth shoot 2pt and adults shoot 4pt so kids like me get a taste

[NWBREW]

they should let youth shoot 2pt and adults shoot 4pt so kids like me get a taste

I would like to see a better youth hunt with a 2 pt. min..

[bearpaw]

Looking at the recommendation, they retained the 4 day doe hunt for youth, that should help with youth.

[Ridgeratt]

Let the record show I am in favor of the 4 point Min.
We already have a 3 point Min on Mulie's which means most folks have to study the big 2 to see if it has the eye guards. If it has 3 on a beam most likely it has eye guards also. So this just slows down the snap shooters.

I would like to see it go all of the 3 eastern counties as well.  (Ferry.Stevens,Pend Orielle)