ford fans beware...the following post may upset you

[tndrft]

this time around, chevy got a bail out but ford got a bailout after WW2

[KillBilly]

All this crap has made me love my Ford more than ever. I am starting to think that all you gloating chevy owners are jealous. It is quite an honor for you to pick on Fords explicitly, it just shows how great they really are

[FC]

All this crap has made me love my Ford more than ever. I am starting that all you gloating chevy owners are jealous. It is quite an honor for you to pick on Fords explicitly, it just shows how great they really are

It isn't picking on them when you actually have had to regularly fix the clunkers as a living

I drive a Toyota 

[Caseyd]

"Just one month before Mulally declared, “We do not face a near-term liquidity issue, and we are not seeking short-term financial assistance from the government,” Ford Motor Credit had borrowed nearly $4 billion from the Fed’s Commercial Paper Funding Facility (CPFF). And just two weeks after this remark, Ford Motor Credit borrowed an additional $3 billion from the CPFF. In all, Ford borrowed $7 billion between October 27, 2008 and June 17, 2009."

[FC]

Looks like the real winner out of the Big 3 is Dodge.

[longknife]

I drive a Toyota 

Thats real American! Loved watching a toyota car flip from a stuck gas peddle in front of me.

[Gutpile]

I own 3 fords and love all of them. 86 ford F350, 97 F250, 08 F250. I've worked out of the two older fords for years and have worked out of chevy's as spray rigs. The Fords blow away the Chevy's. Chevy may be a comfy ride and look real cool all jacked up but they cant hold a candle to Fords as a work truck. 

[FC]

I drive a Toyota 

Thats real American! Loved watching a toyota car flip from a stuck gas peddle in front of me.

It was built here in the USA? Do you know where Toyota, Dodge, Chevy and Ford build their's or who owns each? I'll give you a hint, Dodge is the most American made of the bunch, I'm not sure if Toyota comes in 2nd or 3rd out of that list though...

[mebco09]

"Just one month before Mulally declared, “We do not face a near-term liquidity issue, and we are not seeking short-term financial assistance from the government,” Ford Motor Credit had borrowed nearly $4 billion from the Fed’s Commercial Paper Funding Facility (CPFF). And just two weeks after this remark, Ford Motor Credit borrowed an additional $3 billion from the CPFF. In all, Ford borrowed $7 billion between October 27, 2008 and June 17, 2009."

So what.  Companies borrow money all the time.  The only strings attached to the Ford loans was that they pay them back with interest.  No different than any other loan, it was just from the Fed rather than B of A.

What was different about the GM bailout was that instead of a real bankruptcy, the Obama administration decided that they would fund/'lend' the continued operations of the company for the benefit of their chosen few, namely the Unions.  They chose the winners and losers, rather than letting the bankruptcy court decide.  The stockholders were most likely toast in either scenario, but the bondholders got roasted to save the union pensions.  They went a step farther and then gave ownership through stock to the unions themselves.  I won't buy their cars no matter how good or cheap they are.

[frostman]

The unions are in control of this country right now. They are pulling the strings of obama's communist regime and most of the state govt's as well.
GM was obviously going to cease to exist because they were poorly managed and putting out an inferior product due to the fact that they were controlled by the union mobsters. This is not good for GM and certainly not good for America. obama will fail. GM will fail. America must not.
It is very foolish for people to support this failed company and this incompetent man that fooled people into voting for him. It is very sad that Americans allowed this to happen. We can not continue to reward failure in this country.

I do not think that these foolish obama supporters (chevy owners) fully  understand how strong the Ford Motor Company is right now. They are internationally successfull in a very *censored*ty global economy. GM and chevy are an international joke, like America is right now under our appeaser-in- chief.

On a cold night you can hear a chevy rusting!!!!!

[ribka]

Simply put-
A Chevy owner is a Obama supporter

Obama wants to ban all firearms ownership

Obama wants to ban all hunting

GM ( Chevy) has robbe dthe American tax payers of billions of dollars

How can somenoe buy a GM product?

[Armadillo]

The unions are in control of this country right now.

Yeah the Unions are made up of people like you and me who bust their butts to earn a decent wage and vote.. Since when was it bad to let the people stand up and say NO I will not subject me and my family to an unacceptable quality of life? Im not in a union by the way I just dont see why people have a problem with them. Unions keep people from being screwed over by big business. If corporate America had its way, we'd all be working minimum wage.. Lazy union workers are a myth. Why is it lazy to not be subjected to a harder work environment, isnt it preferable? Powerless workers are ignorant workers

[383man]

The unions are in control of this country right now. They are pulling the strings of obama's communist regime and most of the state govt's as well.
GM was obviously going to cease to exist because they were poorly managed and putting out an inferior product due to the fact that they were controlled by the union mobsters. This is not good for GM and certainly not good for America. obama will fail. GM will fail. America must not.
It is very foolish for people to support this failed company and this incompetent man that fooled people into voting for him. It is very sad that Americans allowed this to happen. We can not continue to reward failure in this country.


I do not think that these foolish obama supporters (chevy owners) fully  understand how strong the Ford Motor Company is right now. They are internationally successfull in a very *censored*ty global economy. GM and chevy are an international joke, like America is right now under our appeaser-in- chief.

On a cold night you can hear a chevy rusting!!!!!

I didn't want to quote everyone in the last three comments and write three responses, so I'll just pick one and knows its towards all o fyou.

A)GM did not require a bailout because they had an inferior product, your making up history. if you remember correctly, GM, CHRYSLER, AND FORD, all were hit huge with the recession. the downturn in the economy caused people to stop buying new cars and save their money, I will give credit to ford as they saw this coming, stopped investing in new technology, stopped borrowing for new ventures, shrunk in size, closed factories early, and huddled down. GM and Chrysler failed to see it coming, kept investing, kept expanding, and when the recession came, they all, all three, Chrysler, GM, and Ford got hit hard, very hard, the only reason why ford held on by a thread is because they responded early. to say that chevy puts out a inferior product and thats why they needed bailout, is bogus.

B)Union Mobsters do not run GM-GM is ran by executives that are in no way affiliated with the unions, the lower level employees, just like with ford, are unionized, which helps them bargain with the execs for higher pay. do I like unions? no, do i think they are somhow in charge of companies and how they are run? no, they might run obama, but they do not govern companies.

C) The fact that you call me an obama supporter because I'm a chevy owner is about as insulting as it gets, get real. I voted mccain, I am a conservative, and I believe that allowing GM and chrystler to fail would have meant hundreds of thousands of hard working americans wouldn't have been able to provide for their families, just so guys like you can stand on their high horse and say you wouldn't take a loan from the government if your business was failing due to a recession.

Wake up and get real people, you guys that say GM is so evil for taking a hand out? they didn't take a handout! they are paying every red cent back, and I don't know if you noticed, but they help feed our economy, and have done so for some 100 years, look how fast you turn your back on them though, lame, just lame. 

[383man]

Oh, and another fun fact, GM is the worlds, THE WORLDS, second largest automaker, second only to toyota, Ford touts their number one trucks sales and leaves out the important info.

[383man]

Ford sales                                   GM Sales
1999 4,163,369                          1999 5,017,150
2000 4,202,820                          2000 4,953,163
2001 3,971,364                          2001 4,904,015
2002 3,623,709                          2002 4,858,705
2003 3,483,719                          2003 4,756,403
2004 3,331,676                          2004 4,707,416
2005 3,153,875                          2005 4,517,730
2006 2,901,090                          2006 4,124,645
2007 2,507,366                          2007 3,866,620
2008 1,988,376                          2008 2,980,688
2009 1,620,888                          2009 2,084,492
2010 1,935,462                          2010 2,215,227

As you can see here, there is really no way to contest that in the last decade (the only years I could find on sales figures) there has never been a year when ford outsold GM, EVER!