trout species

[Dustin07]

and yes Skagit river says min size 20" for dollys and they count towards normal trout limit.

also flipping through the regs, looks like:

Baker River min 20"

SUIATTLE RIVER

WhiteChuck River

Cascade River

Snohomish River

Skykomish River

Sultan River

Wallace River

and there are more but i'm bored now, lol. however I am seeing a trend in the geographical location of keeper Dollys.

[6x6in6]

And it's completely legal to target Bull trout where the regs specify.

[6x6in6]

Unfortunately, I guess, in the infinite wisdom of our beloved WDFW they consider the Bull and the Dolly to be too closely resembled and therefore they opted to lump them together in their management objective as char.  Which they are char obviously, but different.  This why the regs refer to them as Dolly Varden/Bull Trout to make sure everyone understands that the WDFW recognizes them as one.  Yeah, lame!!!
http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/pub.php?id=00930

[singleshot12]

I'm not even sure why dollys or bulls are listed as trout when they are char.

[jackelope]

So would  a Dolly caught out of the Skagit count as a bull trout for that grand slam deal?

[singleshot12]

I really don't know what the difference is.. other than skagit fish are sea-run dollys and the ones in lakes are called bull trout, I think  . I tried getting a straight answer from wdfw one time about this whole endangered dolly or bull trout thing and never could get a very clear answer.

If anyone else knows why the whole state is closed for dollys except for retention of 20+ dollys in the skagit I should would like to know why?. There are more of them egg sucking char than ever now.

[jackelope]

If anyone else knows why the whole state is closed for dollys except for retention of 20+ dollys in the skagit I should would like to know why?. There are more of them egg sucking char than ever now.

They do that to protect the endangered bull trout.
Folks cant tell the difference between bull trout and dollys so you release everything.

[couesbitten]

I'm not even sure why dollys or bulls are listed as trout when they are char.

Brook trout and Lake trout are char also.

[beau6hunter]

wow touchy subject lol! yes i will catch a bull trout accidently while fishing for west slope, rainbows,and brookies . . . .  get over it lol dont be haitin! i know where all these species are and how to catch them! was just lookin for couple tips not ridicule for catchin a fish that is in over abundance in many areas! in fact a know where to catch record size bulls just cant keep em to weigh em! so i dont even bother and really the wdfw blocks the roads off the time of year they spawn! my bad contacted the wdfw about 17 tears ago about a thirty forty and sixty lb salmon fish i was seein at night! they said there were no fish like that there! and now they cut you off miles ahead everytime saying its for fire investigation lol! anyways start another blog about you not being able to catch bulls and leave a helpful post please and thank you!

[Button Nubbs]

Take a chill pill dude. I don't think anyone was doggin you. It seems to me there was just some confusion on the subject of targeting bulls.

If you know where and how to catch all these fish why are you asking for tips and spots.

[Skyvalhunter]

Good luck on your quest, sounds like you know what to do..

[singleshot12]

If anyone else knows why the whole state is closed for dollys except for retention of 20+ dollys in the skagit I should would like to know why?. There are more of them egg sucking char than ever now.

They do that to protect the endangered bull trout.
Folks cant tell the difference between bull trout and dollys so you release everything.

Personally after fishing and studying these fish myself for over 30 years I believe the Dolly Vardon and Bull Trout are still the same fish and always have been. And only change in appearance slightly whether they be land-locked, resident tidal, or ocean migratory.

[singleshot12]

Not sure if there has been any DNA testing done to prove the Bull Trout and Dolly Vardon are differant either!. So until then I'll remain skeptical.

[jackelope]

If anyone else knows why the whole state is closed for dollys except for retention of 20+ dollys in the skagit I should would like to know why?. There are more of them egg sucking char than ever now.

They do that to protect the endangered bull trout.
Folks cant tell the difference between bull trout and dollys so you release everything.

Personally after fishing and studying these fish myself for over 30 years I believe the Dolly Vardon and Bull Trout are still the same fish and always have been. And only change in appearance slightly whether they be land-locked, resident tidal, or ocean migratory.

How's about a steelhead or a rainbow...
The only hand I have in this debate is whether or not the Dolly counts for that slam as a bull trout, and really I don't care about that either...

If you know where and how to catch all these fish why are you asking for tips and spots.

That's the best question of the whole  thread.

Good luck on your quest, sounds like you know what to do..

here here...

[beau6hunter]

(button)um why not gain more knowledge!? why dont you write something productive lol dont be haitin! i can show you how to catch fish too lol!) and bulls and dollys are the same in my opinion!