SB5622 Discover Pass - sent to Gov

[Sumpnneedskillin]

Was sent to the Gov today. 

Here's the final bill
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2011-12/Pdf/Bills/Senate%20Passed%20Legislature/5622-S2.PL.pdf

Good news......bad news.

Good - If you buy a hunting or fishing license you get a vehicle access pass, good only for DFW sites.

Good - If you have a sno-park pass you do not need a discover pass.

Bad - Parks still get 84 percent of the monies of the first 71 million made.  Anything over 71 million gets split evenly between DNR, DFW, parks.

Bad - If you buy a hunting/fishing license and use DNR lands or Parks you still have to buy a discover pass.

Other - If you operate your vehicle on "pass" lands/sites you must have it visibly displayed in your windshield, same with parking.

Don't have or pass or display it properly, pay up -- 99 bucks.  It's a natural resource infraction under chapter 7.84 RCW.

Day pass is $10

If you are curious as to how your Representatives voted
Senate
Voting Yea: Senators Becker, Brown, Carrell, Chase, Conway, Eide, Fain, Fraser, Hargrove, Harper, Hatfield, Haugen, Hewitt, Hill, Keiser, Kilmer, Kline, Kohl-Welles, Litzow, McAuliffe, Murray, Nelson, Prentice, Pridemore, Ranker, Regala, Rockefeller, Schoesler, Shin, Stevens, Swecker, Tom, and White

Voting Nay:  Senators Baumgartner, Baxter, Benton, Delvin, Ericksen, Hobbs, Holmquist Newbry, Honeyford, Kastama, King, Morton, Pflug, Roach, and Sheldon
Absent:  Senator Zarelli
Excused:  Senator Parlette

House
Voting Yea:  Representatives Appleton, Billig, Blake, Carlyle, Clibborn, Cody, Darneille, Dickerson, Dunshee, Eddy, Finn, Fitzgibbon, Frockt, Goodman, Green, Haigh, Hasegawa, Hudgins, Hunt, Hunter, Hurst, Jinkins, Kagi, Kelley, Kenney, Kirby, Ladenburg, Liias, Lytton, Maxwell, McCoy, Miloscia, Moeller, Morris, Moscoso, Ormsby, Orwall, Pedersen, Pettigrew, Reykdal, Roberts, Rolfes, Ryu, Santos, Seaquist, Sells, Springer, Stanford, Sullivan, Takko, Tharinger, Upthegrove, Van De Wege, Wylie, and Mr. Speaker

Voting Nay:  Representatives Ahern, Alexander, Anderson, Angel, Armstrong, Asay, Bailey, Buys, Chandler, Condotta, Dahlquist, Dammeier, DeBolt, Fagan, Haler, Hargrove, Harris, Hinkle, Hope, Johnson, Klippert, Kretz, Kristiansen, McCune, Nealey, Orcutt, Overstreet, Parker, Pearson, Probst, Rivers, Rodne, Ross, Shea, Schmick, Short, Smith, Taylor, Walsh, Warnick, Wilcox, and Zeiger
Absent: 
Excused:  Representative Crouse

[1Shot2Kills]

It's always the good and the bad which ends up equaling UGLY.   

[Elkaholic daWg]

 Freaking merger next,right? Bastiges!!!!!!!!!!!! I will have some comments for Stevens and will thank Bailey. Looks like being a snowmobiler pays off. I will license a sled every year rather than pay the other.

[bobcat]

Anyone know- can it be transferred from one vehicle to another or do you have to purchase one for every vehicle you own? I wouldn't have a problem with it if I only had to pay $30, but if I have to pay $30 for each of the four vehicles that we own, then I will NOT be visiting state parks or DNR land anymore.

Another question- is it only needed if you drive a vehicle onto state lands? If so, I have some places I hunt where I will just park on the county right of way and walk onto the state land.

[Special T]

That is exactly how to get around this Bobcat...

[Sumpnneedskillin]

Anyone know- can it be transferred from one vehicle to another or do you have to purchase one for every vehicle you own? I wouldn't have a problem with it if I only had to pay $30, but if I have to pay $30 for each of the four vehicles that we own, then I will NOT be visiting state parks or DNR land anymore.

Another question- is it only needed if you drive a vehicle onto state lands? If so, I have some places I hunt where I will just park on the county right of way and walk onto the state land.

Sec 3 --The cost of the discover pass is thirty dollars per motor vehicle.

 

Freaking merger next,right? Bastiges!!!!!!!!!!!! I will have some comments for Stevens and will thank Bailey. Looks like being a snowmobiler pays off. I will license a sled every year rather than pay the other.

Sec 7 says your sno-park pass is only good at sno-parks and Nov thru Mar.

[swanny]

Everything i have read is per vehicle which SUCKS BIG TIME! It should at least be transferrable between two vehicles as the current WDFW parking pass is. I don't have a huge issue with paying $30 a year for a household pass, but per vehicle is ridiculous, depending on what I am doing, where I am going, and how many people are in the car I might take a different vehicle. None of should be penalized for that.

[Elkaholic daWg]

Fee can be adjusted up every 4 years.

(3) Every four years the office of financial management must review
8 the cost of the day-use permit and, if necessary, recommend to the
9 legislature an adjustment to the cost of the day-use permit to account
10 for inflation.
 $59 ticket even if you forgot  to display a  previously purchased pass

(5) The penalty for failure to comply with the requirements of this
28 section is ninety-nine dollars. This penalty is reduced to fifty-nine
29 dollars if an individual provides proof of purchase of the discover
30 pass to the court within fifteen days after the issuance of the notice
31 of violation.

Section 12....
 26 (6) "Motor vehicle" has the same meaning as defined in RCW
27 46.04.320 and which are required to be registered under chapter 46.16A
28 RCW. "Motor vehicle" does not include those motor vehicles exempt from
29 registration under RCW 46.16A.080 and state and publicly owned motor
30 vehicles as provided in RCW 46.16A.170.


 So here we are having to spend ANOTHER $60 for a truck and a quad to hunt much of the colockum area  (glad I don't camp a motorhome,would be $90) and these *censored*s have the gall to throw in SECTION 12

 Reminds one of registering a MV for the last couple years.

[Special T]

The state shows their true colors by their own statement.. This is a $$$ grab for parks nothing else... Everything over 71 million raised will be split 3ways... They are not encouraging  more use they are shuffling $$$. They have a dollar goal in line and i'd bet my paycheck they don't meet it. 

[Elkaholic daWg]

That is exactly how to get around this Bobcat...

 Or drive up hunting on your tractor!

[Sumpnneedskillin]

The state shows their true colors by their own statement.. This is a $$$ grab for parks nothing else... Everything over 71 million raised will be split 3ways... They are not encouraging  more use they are shuffling $$$. They have a dollar goal in line and i'd bet my paycheck they don't meet it. 

I'm not taking that bet!!   

If they had been concerned about money for outdoor activities they would have split the money evenly.  Instead of the Discover Pass it should be called the State Parks pass.

[bigtex]

Another question- is it only needed if you drive a vehicle onto state lands? If so, I have some places I hunt where I will just park on the county right of way and walk onto the state land.

This should answer your question Bobcat, the pass is required at any recreation site or lands:

(7) "Recreation site or lands" means a state park or fish and wildlife conservation sites including water access areas, boat ramps, wildlife areas, parking areas, roads, and trailheads, or department of natural resources developed or designated recreation areas, sites, trailheads, and parking areas.

So if you park in an area not owned by DFW, DNR or Parks then you are good to go. There are a lot of people who park outside of DFW boat launches because they don't have/forgot their vehicle use permit.

[bobcat]

When does the requirement for the permit go into effect? Will it be needed for this hunting season?

[bearpaw]

How much is a snowpark pass?

[bigtex]

When does the requirement for the permit go into effect? Will it be needed for this hunting season?

The bill included an "emergency clause" which means the bill/permit requirement goes into effect July 1, 2011.