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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2011, 01:05:10 PM »
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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2011, 09:38:49 PM »
For those of you that are interested, I found this to be really helpful on the greater vs lesser scaup ID  :)

http://www.utahbirds.org/featarts/Scaup.htm
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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2011, 09:49:16 PM »
Crispy, nice side by side. With that said i would say greater... anyone with me?
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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2011, 12:09:13 AM »
Crispy, nice side by side. With that said i would say greater... anyone with me?

Pics weren't taken by me, I just stumbled across them when I was googling so I can't take credit for the shots (agreed, they are nice).

I was actually thinking lessers just based on the dark heads and the more pronounced mottled black/white on the back. I don't know enough about their relative size to speak to that, though. I've only bagged three ever.
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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2011, 12:48:45 AM »
I've been trying to save a picture of each species, Here is a Greater I shot this Year,  for reference I'm 5'10" 205 dog was about 90lbs in this picture, I only knew it was a greater because I shot a couple lessers the same day and he was bigger.




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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2011, 07:17:13 PM »
Yep! Northern Shoveler aka Spoony! and the flying ones are Lesser Scaup aka Bluebills. Lesser Scaup have a purple tint to their head feathers while Greater Scaup have a green tint to their head feathers
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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2011, 10:31:28 AM »
Those are lesser scaup.  The way to tell the apart is in their wings.  The deep white speculum will extend further out towards the wing tip in a greater than in a lesser.  While both have white on most of the wing, the greaters is deeper.


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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2011, 11:57:13 AM »
Very cool.. I change my answer!  :chuckle: I like the wing compariso photo thanks
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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2011, 12:35:04 PM »
Telling them apart by head color is quite difficult.  Both lessers and greaters have a green or purple tint to their head, just depends on the angle of the light.  Same thing with a mallard, held in certain light it turns purple.  The lessers generally appear darker over much of the light spectrum than a greater does, in my personal experience.

Bill size is another give away.  Greaters have a much broader bill than the the lessers.

Body size is an OK estimator.  A young greater will be the same size as a lesser, and I've shot some hog lessers that could easily be mistaken for a greater.  Generally greaters are larger, who woulda thunk it :chuckle:

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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2011, 02:36:33 PM »


 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2011, 04:19:32 PM »
well said Teal101! long time no talk!

nice pic there Coho!  :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2011, 08:03:18 PM »
very cool pic coho.. I've been on a falconry hunt and they are sweet! we only hunted rabbits tho...
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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2011, 09:30:12 AM »
well said Teal101! long time no talk!

nice pic there Coho!  :chuckle: :chuckle:

Yeah it has.  My season was all of two hunts, was just too busy with other things and barely made it out :'(  Gearing up for fishing though!

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Re: need hep with ID
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2011, 11:24:05 AM »
well said Teal101! long time no talk!

nice pic there Coho!  :chuckle: :chuckle:

Yeah it has.  My season was all of two hunts, was just too busy with other things and barely made it out :'(  Gearing up for fishing though!

we'll have to change that next year and meet up for some hunts! you bet! I have done a pretty good amount of trout fishing already but really looking forward to school getting out!
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