Long Range Centerfire Pistols

[demontang]

The regs had a energy statement in it years a go if I remember right. I would think if in this state you'll need a revolver as stated in the regs. Ive seen studies on these fire restricted area and a shot gun shooting a slug has less range but the recishay is way more then a 30-06 and almost meets the same range.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

The regs had a energy statement in it years a go if I remember right. I would think if in this state you'll need a revolver as stated in the regs. Ive seen studies on these fire restricted area and a shot gun shooting a slug has less range but the recishay is way more then a 30-06 and almost meets the same range.

It also specifically stated that a .357 out of a revolver did not meet the required energy. 
sure seems to be legal now.....

[coyotewallace]

Yea,("JOKE") a 4" 9mm would be legal under the law now right?

[CastleRocker]

Back when I hunted with a handgun, there was definately a energy requirement.  I had to buy an Oeler chronograph to make sure that my loads met the requirement.  At that time you had to handload a 44 to make the minimum.  Contrary to what most folks believed, there were NO factory loads that hot until Black Hills started making some with 300gr hard cast in the mid to late '80's.

I think there should still be an energy requirement.  I mean, the way I read that law as it stands, a 25 auto or a 380 would be legal.  Are you kidding me!?!?

A Savage Striker in 300 WSM is a handfull, but it does the job well.  So does my 10" barrel on my old Contender in 45-70.  It is a "barker" though, as it doesn't have a muzzle break.  It shoots really well though!  It is just a such a bugger on scopes, and base screws.

[MP123]

Yea,("JOKE") a 4" 9mm would be legal under the law now right?

Well, not unless it was a "revolver type" 9mm whatever the heck that is.

[JimmyHoffa]

Wouldn't be legal in the firearms restricted area, but would be legal in the non-restricted---like the general or special permit MF seasons.  Which it is interesting that a .500 S&W revolver is legal in a restricted area, but the little auto 9mm isn't.

[coyotewallace]

Yea,("JOKE") a 4" 9mm would be legal under the law now right?

Well, not unless it was a "revolver type" 9mm whatever the heck that is.

what are you saying there has not been one made or what??
I know for a fact Ruger made a blackhawk that would run 9mm

[MP123]

Yep, I think there are a few 9mm revolvers.  I was just laughing at the crazyness of the DFW regs.   

[demontang]

I think the new reg is kind of wierd since some pistols have such low energy but when was the last time you saw a 25 or 380 with a 4" barrel?

[coyotewallace]

Well weather you see them or not..I'm not sure if a 380 or 25acp has ever been made in a 4"but the way the law reads you can go after elk(big game) with a 25 acp and a 4" barrel.
Hell you might be better off with a sharp stick!
What was the thought process when they were writing the handgun reg's???

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Well weather you see them or not..I'm not sure if a 380 or 25acp has ever been made in a 4"but the way the law reads you can go after elk(big game) with a 25 acp and a 4" barrel.
Hell you might be better off with a sharp stick!
What was the thought process when they were writing the handgun reg's???

Well.. I do go after them with a sharp stick !
but I would say most likely there were a lot of modern firearm guys complaining about the regs being too restrictive, and the department caved in to pressure from the guys who wanted to hunt deer with their .357's and .44 automags.

[coyotewallace]

well they separate the ML requirements between deer and elk as far as minimum calibers..they could just as easy with handgun I have no problem with 357 Mag being the minimum for deer(I've taken deer no problem with 357,10mm,41 mag and 44 mag in other states)
Elk, diffrent critter...41 mag at archery ranges,well placed shot and the right bullet would be pushing it in my mind in a revolver
now in say like the T/C encore or other single shot pistols that can handle high pressure rounds that opens up more cartridges to the task. Even then I would like a bullet 6.5cal or 7mm or bigger and a case size of at least the 308 winchester

[addicted]

they should set the minimum at 100 joules from the muzzle.  a 9mm barely makes those requirements.

[CP]

they should set the minimum at 100 joules from the muzzle.

Or they could just let us hunters use our common sense in selecting an appropriate weapon and not micro manage everything with legislation.   

[addicted]

they should set the minimum at 100 joules from the muzzle.

Or they could just let us hunters use our common sense in selecting an appropriate weapon and not micro manage everything with legislation.   

our nation is neither educated enough nor does it have the common sense to perform most medial tasks without big brother. its sad.