Permits...single or group hunt?

[Cougeyes]

Thoughts on this....I have 13 points dad has 12 for deer, we'll probably have 12 due to the average of the two and I dont see them rounding to the higher number 13.....is it worth it to put in as partners ? I know if it comes down to the last permit being drawn and I or my dad were selected we wouldn't get it since there is 1 tag for 2 hunters. That, and him having one less point are the reasons i can see why I shouldn't do a group hunt.  Are there other reasons why I should select one over the other?

[elkslayer069]

My dad has one less elk permit than i do and i put in partners with him. If i draw one he'll draw one, i dont want it any other way. Ill wait an extra year to draw my tag as long i get to share the hunt with popps.

[DoubleJ]

So, as a group, if one gets the tag, everyone gets the tag?  4 person group, 1 tag for 4 people or 4 tags?

[elkslayer069]

Yes if one person in the group draws the permit then everybody in the group draws the permit.

[HenrySeattle2002]

So, as a group, if one gets the tag, everyone gets the tag?  4 person group, 1 tag for 4 people or 4 tags?

The only caveat to that is...if say you have a group of 5, and they give out 10 permits...if they've already drawn 6 permits (with 4 remaining) and your number comes up.  You get passed over.  So you limit your chances even more when you submit as a group.

[Hunterman]

Yes if one person in the group draws the permit then everybody in the group draws the permit.

WRONG...If there is only one tag is left and member of a GROUP draws it,,the tag goes to the next SINGLE draw name..The game folks are not going to incress the permit just because a group member is drawn..
 
Hunterman(Tony)

[WDFW Hates ME!!!]

They round up. SO if yo have 13 and he has 12 you would have 13 together.
 

[elkslayer069]

Sorry i didnt go into the details, hunterman is correct.

[Bob33]

They round up. SO if yo have 13 and he has 12 you would have 13 together.

Not quite.  The average is rounded to the nearest whole number:

"If the first member has one point, the second member has two, and a third member has four, then two points are used in the drawing for that application. The averaged points are rounded to the nearest whole number. "

[Ridgerunner]

so if a group has a .5, i.e 9 points between them averaqges to 4.5 do they go in with  4 or 5 points?

[Bob33]

so if a group has a .5, i.e 9 points between them averaqges to 4.5 do they go in with  4 or 5 points?

The question of rounding .5 up or down is not specifically answered by WDFW but by standard math convention .5 rounds up, so 4.5 should be considered 5.

[bobcat]

If the group is drawn, then yes, everyone in the group gets a permit, but of course (as others have said) only if there are enough permits left for that hunt. If you're going to apply as a group, my recommendation would be to apply for hunts that have a relatively high number of permits. If there are only, say, 5 permits, you are really hurting your chances if you apply as a group. If the numbers are more up around 30 or 40, then I don't think it matters so much.

If you really want to draw a permit, you're better off applying separately, but only if you are willing to hunt alone, or if you know your partner is able to go along to help, even if he isn't able to hunt for himself.

Personally, this year, due to gas prices and a lack of money to spend, I am not going to apply for anything separately, because I want a partner to split the expenses with. Well, with the exception of moose. For a moose hunt I don't mind racking up the credit card.

[Ridgerunner]

Well, with the exception of moose. For a moose hunt I don't mind racking up the credit card.

Its worth it.  Sheep and goat too I would think.

[bobcat]

Well, with the exception of moose. For a moose hunt I don't mind racking up the credit card.

Its worth it.  Sheep and goat too I would think.

Yeah, sheep too, but I don't apply for mountain goat. I think I could do a sheep hunt by myself if I had to. But moose I definitely would not want to be by myself.

[Bob33]

I suspect anyone who drews an OIL tag would have little trouble finding a partner to go along to help.