berger bullets???

[duckmen1]

anybody ever used these bullets? they seem pretty good to me and thought about reloading them for .270win in 140 grain and a 300wsm in 168 grain. haven't found any reloading info yet. are they good quality bullets for deer, elk, and bears. hows the accuracy.
any info is greatly appreciated
thanks

[predatorpro]

bergers are awesome! the best bullet i have ever shot so far, i use them in my 30-06 168gr berger vld handloads

[BOWHUNTER45]

No but I am dieing to load some ... I forget who I was talking to on here a couple weeks ago and he loaded some for his 300wsm and the group he shoot was about 3/4 of an inch and some hit the same hole .... If they can beat this group then I will change but i  have shot hornaday bullets so long its hard to get away !!!

                                     .270 140gr hornaday  9 shot group @ 100yrds   

[sisu]

I removed all posts from elk, deer, & bear. I left this post because basically this is where it belongs. Please refrain from doing multiple posts of the same subject. Keeping the post in one spot helps every one since we don't have to look all over the place for information. 

[carpsniperg2]

We were both taking them down at the same time

[BOWHUNTER45]

YEAH I WONDERED WHAT WAS GOING ON .....   HAHAHA

[CastleRocker]

I was wondering too.  Every time I looked at the Recent Topics...there it was again, and again, and again, each with a different time stamp.

I've used them and it's been my experience that most barrels like them, however some don't.  I've got one old, old 300 Wby., and a Colt Sauer that both shoot the 210 match VLD's better than anything except the original (no longer made) Barnes X. 

HOWEVER, I haven't found a Berger bullet/load combo yet for my Dad's 7mm that will shoot any better than the (much cheaper) Sierra's that his barrel likes.  For most folks it would never make any difference, but he likes to do a lot of shooting, and so cost becomes a factor.

I do a lot of experimenting, and I alway go with the most accurate/fast, bullet/load combo.  If the bullets misses....it really doesn't matter what it was!

[duckmen1]

sorry
how do they perform for big game such as elk, and bear?

[sisu]

If you click on this link it has a ton of information for the Berger Bullet user

Berger Bullet Home Page

Here is a link for long range hunting with a discussion on the actual use of the Berger Bullet   
Long Range Hunting

Hope some of this helps

[BOWHUNTER45]

I was wondering too.  Every time I looked at the Recent Topics...there it was again, and again, and again, each with a different time stamp.

I've used them and it's been my experience that most barrels like them, however some don't.  I've got one old, old 300 Wby., and a Colt Sauer that both shoot the 210 match VLD's better than anything except the original (no longer made) Barnes X. 

HOWEVER, I haven't found a Berger bullet/load combo yet for my Dad's 7mm that will shoot any better than the (much cheaper) Sierra's that his barrel likes.  For most folks it would never make any difference, but he likes to do a lot of shooting, and so cost becomes a factor.

I do a lot of experimenting, and I alway go with the most accurate/fast, bullet/load combo.  If the bullets misses....it really doesn't matter what it was!

YEAH I love how sierra bullets shoot but they seem to expand to quick on impact and loose more retension than like a hornaday bullet.... I have seriously hurt some game with Hornaday and the result has never changed ..hard hitting and seriously deadly !!   

[TheHunt]

I thought Berger was coming out with a 338 bullet.  I did not see that on their site.  Has anyone heard anything?

[carpsniperg2]

I thought Berger was coming out with a 338 bullet.  I did not see that on their site.  Has anyone heard anything?

Yeah, I have some friends in the 338 lapua world and they have been talking about it. I guess it still being tested some. Supposed to be like 300 grains. I was looking for some info my my 340 wby

[elkslayer069]

Been waiting to hear some news on the 338 bullet. There was another post on here i think it was 338 long range and it had all the info and a link to it.

[Alan K]

I didn't have enough time to really get them dialed last year, but it was a pain with the .300 WSM. . .

They like to be seated right on the lands, and with the short action of the .300 WSM it would mean that I'd have to go single shot because they're too long for the clip.  I did manage to get them shooting right at 1 MOA for season before I called it good though, and they did a number on deer in CO, ID, and WA.

[scoutsniper17]

It has been my experience with the Bergers that you need to not get frustrated with a less than great group at a 100 yards....shoot them at 200 or 300 and see what happens!Seems like they take a little bit longer to stabilize,maybe its just my rifle but at a 100 yards they dont do anything that my hornadys wont...but at 200-1,000 yards...look out.

You do need to have a long action to best utilize the Bergers for sure or else you might as well buy a single shot rifle.

[Eli346]

 Use the Berger VLD's in my 300 WSM/Tikka Lite. They group well for me at about 3/4" at 100 yds. I don't shoot paper very good so I consider that decent. I took them out today and shot at my gong at 400 yds and was amazed that the first shot blew through 1/4" steel and left a hole the size of a 50 cal! The steel wasn't high grade but it was heavy and I sure didn't expect that kind of damage at that distance. I'll guess I'll have to go back to shooting paper with the VLD's or build a better gong.

[carpsniperg2]

It has been my experience with the Bergers that you need to not get frustrated with a less than great group at a 100 yards....shoot them at 200 or 300 and see what happens!Seems like they take a little bit longer to stabilize,maybe its just my rifle but at a 100 yards they dont do anything that my hornadys wont...but at 200-1,000 yards...look out.

You do need to have a long action to best utilize the Bergers for sure or else you might as well buy a single shot rifle.

That is the case I hear from almost every shooter, that I know who uses them. 1-1.5 at 100yards but really shows the special stuff at 300+ compared to a lot of other bullets.

[duckmen1]

in the past i have always used bullets that had more weight retention.  would using these bullets do just fine on black bear if you hit shoulder bones and what not, out of a .270 140 gr.
i know these bullets are super fast and accurate just want to make sure they are good for bears ans maybe elk for future.
thanks for the feed back everyone

[bhylton]

take a look at the 185gr vld for your WSM. looking at ballistic calcs, the 185 has more energy and has a better trajectory than the 168 at longer ranges. i can get 3000fps out of my browning a-bolt 300wsm. shoots well.

[sakoshooter]

in the past i have always used bullets that had more weight retention.  would using these bullets do just fine on black bear if you hit shoulder bones and what not, out of a .270 140 gr.
i know these bullets are super fast and accurate just want to make sure they are good for bears ans maybe elk for future.
thanks for the feed back everyone

Super premium bullets are the way to go for hunting. Bonded core or solid copper expanding. You're on the right track already thinking about weight retention.

[MDGrand]

Been waiting to hear some news on the 338 bullet. There was another post on here i think it was 338 long range and it had all the info and a link to it.

It is currently called the "Hybrid" and not been released to the general public yet but the BC is supposed to be in the 8s! That is crazy.

I personally shoot the 185s out of my 300 WSM and got the following results: