The truth about our draw odds

[rasbo]

I'm gonna push legislation to pass points on to my heirs, maybe they will draw,lol

[338_Thumper]

I got drawn for Rimrock last year and it was my Second choice - Everyone I talked to over there that was hunting (Dozens of Hunters) it also was their second choice for Any Bull. Now everyone I talked too that put Rimrock for their First Choice didn't get drawn

[hughjorgan]

That makes sense... the squaring of the points is an exponential increase in the number of applications.  Okay, after I draw, lets blow the system up and start over with straight preference points and limited non-resident like NM did. 

I better idea would be to go with no points system at all. Look at Idaho. They know how to do it when it comes to improving draw odds. No point system = way better odds. Period.

 

[greenhead_killer]

man this system sucks...oh, and whoever was talking about the guy who drew that clockum rifle rut tag, me and my old man met him three days before his hunt started. was from manson, 62. had a nice 7x7 pegged that he was going after. i tried to make it up there to see how he did during the week but he was already gone but thurs. must ahve been a great hunt

[Lowedog]

I think the only fair thing to do is to have all those that complain about our system just stop applying!  That way the rest of us have better odds.  It's a win-win for everyone! 

[teanawayslayer]

I think the only fair thing to do is to have all those that complain about our system just stop applying!  That way the rest of us have better odds.  It's a win-win for everyone!

now your talking.  I totally agree with you on this one.

[Ridgerunner]

Yeah if you complain quit applying, go back and look at the numbers in the first post.  The longer you apply the higher your odds of drawing a permit, the system is working just as it is supposed to.  I vote for keeping it the same.  There will always be an element of luck involved but I'd rather have that than a straight up preference point system where you know you aren't drawing a tag for 5, 10, 20 years or more.  At least in this state you've got a chance.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Yeah I have know faith in the system .. just pray and hope you get something....

[Todd_ID]

Yeah I have know faith in the system .. just pray and hope you get something....

Worked for Osama and Obama!

[willapawapiti]

I'm gonna push legislation to pass points on to my heirs, maybe they will draw,lol

I will vote for that!

[bobcat]

I don't have a lot of time right now but will just say that putting a particular hunt lower on your list of choices doesn't make it any harder to draw. You can have it as a #4 choice and you will still draw it just as easily as if you had it in the #1 slot.

[Ridgeratt]

Well with all the whining and sniveling on here about the odds of getting drawn. Just how would you feel if the state allocated a percentage of the tags to nonresident's. Many other states do just that.

 The year (08) after Ridgerunner and I had drawn the coveted OIL Moose tag. He was contacted by a gentleman from North Carolina who drew the tag. He put the fella in contact with me. Since I was on this side of the state I agreed to see if we could get him a Moose.

That would really throw a wrinkle to many folks.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,35598.0.html


Not trying to jack the thread but when it was learned a nonresident had drawn some folks were looking for a rope.

[Hilltop123]

Just a guy watching all this play out.......so don't shoot, just tell me to go away......
What if the state went to a odds and evens for deer and elk hunting, everyone in WA is issued a Wild ID#. Lets take me for instance, mine ends with a even#, I hunt deer only one even years, I can apply for special deer permits for that year. Now on odd years I can hunt elk, and apply for those hunts. Just sitting here pondering and drinking beer, and I aready know the state will bitch about revenue lost. But your odds would improve, less people in the woods.  Outa staters would be less likely to apply. And if you don't think permit drawing, to hunt anything in this state ain't coming, just look around.

[shanevg]

No offense Ridgerunner but it's pretty easy to be happy with the system when you've drawn a moose and sheep tag. What about the people who are just getting into hunting now and have no points?  They are so far behind in the game that their chances of ever drawing are almost zero. Additionally if you look at the original post, the chance of drawing actually decreased every year for every point level.

I'm not condoning a true preference point system, I am just suggesting limiting choices to one choice only (or if it makes you feel any better look at everyones first choice before any second or third choices). Also maybe require tag fees up front for OIL tags. Any way to decrease the number of applicants for a given hunt would be a good thing as far as odds go.

[Bullkllr]

What is most depressing to me regarding the new system is the mostly very steep odds of drawing even an antlerless tag for deer or elk. Wasn't too long ago you could about count on one every 2 or 3 years. Now many of them had an average of 6, 8, or 10+ points to draw. That's pretty tough for kids and others just starting who would be overjoyed with a cow or doe.