New to Coyote Hunting.. ADVICE?

[Raul Duke]

So I'm getting more and more into the game. I've picked up a few calls, (Primos Lil' Dog, "Circe" rabbit call) and I have a been using my .17 & .243
Well, I've gone out 6-7 time now ( once every 2weeks , depending on wind and weather) and have only "called-in" one yote, to about 200yrds befor it ran off.

I've been going out later in the evening befor dinner (6-7pm) and no luck. Although I'm having fun trying, I'd like a little pay off.

What is the best advise someone starting off can receive?
Is it to soon to go out and buy a MOJO critter to try and increase my odds?
When calling how long should I call?
If you use a rabitt call, do you switch to a hurt pup call , after getting no responce?

I have 2 great spots for hunting yotes. I know there out there. because the farms tell me. I've heard them and see 2.
How can I draw them in? 

[jjhunter]

Here is a little tip:

Always take a good pair of binoculars and USE them.  On your approach to the stand and before you start your calling sequence.   You would be suprised how many coyotes see you moving into your stand.   I spot a lot of coyotes on the way to the stand and before I begin a calling sequence.  The location and behavior of the coyote will influence my calling approach, or, if I even call at all (sneek).  This time of year, the coyotes have many mouths to feed so they can be active all day long (hunting).  Peak activity times will be the first half hour of light and about 1:00 - 4:00 p.m.   You can dump a lot of coyotes in May if you know what you are doing; however, it is the time of creating the new year's crop so most people leave them alone til about Sept. 

Regardless of when you hunt them, you'll never extinct them 

[predator guy]

  to JJ Hunter. When you are walking to your set up be ready to shoot at any givin' moment especiall right at daylight because those yotes are either heading back to thier den's or looking for a meal. And you never know when you will see one. Park your vehicle out of site and be stealthy on your approach. Dont worry about the Mo Jo yet, get comfortable with your calls and practice with them. Sit on your stand for a good 20-30 mins before moving, remember those dogs have very good ears and can hear you from a long ways away. And the most important thing, WIND. Be very mindfull of the wind, l to r, or r to l. Persistence will pay off and you will succeed. As far as call sequence it really makes no difference, like fishing, start with one lure then on to the next. Don't be shy about using a howler, it works. 

[Raul Duke]

Thanx for the advise and keep it coming.
What about going out before dark, in the evening?

[Bofire]

  If there is a breeze put a turkey feather or two on some light fishing line, tie it or clip it too a bush or limb away from you.
Carl

[Kain]

You could check out this thread for useful info.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,59067.msg729664.html#msg729664

[Raul Duke]

Thank you & Thank you.
On a side note:  Fox Pro  Fast and Furious in on rite now. Hunting out of Connnell,WA. Outdoor channel

[Raul Duke]

Kain that link should be stickied!

[littletoes]

Wear camo that will break up your outline, to include head cover. Call at a lower tempo. You will be amazed how well they can hear just a squeak. Try and get to ground that is a bit higher, and try and see your area as well as you can.

Make sure nobody else is calling in the area your are hunting, to include the farmers whose property you are on, and if they are, they should tell you. It would and IS harder to hunt an area that gets a ton more pressure than you think it gets. Been there, done that!

Hunted an area and learned that the farmers, their kids, and their grandkids were all calling with electronic calls on the place we were trying to hunt. The sad part was they were disappointed we didn't just come in and wipe everything out, when they had been walking and four wheeling all over the place calling everything they could try with their fox-pro's, and not having any luck.
They educated everything within hearing distance. 

[Raul Duke]

thank you littetoes.
On a side note, went to my new spot last (spot #2) lastnight about 8:15pm, wind in my face , full camo, (me ,son & daughter).

Sat down, glassed , looked around. waited about 15min.
Then I started out with a rabbit call. called for about 45sec, waited for about 3-4min then started to call again for another 30-40sec. 
Sat and waited untill 8:45 then tried a pup in disstress call , same 45sec/wait/call
untill darkness came.  NOTHING   

I'll go out tonight to the old place. (spot #1) and see what luck I have. I

[littletoes]

ANY movement will betray.

Taking along 3 may be a bad deal. How old are your kids? Can they hold still? Can they keep more than quiet?

Its the human "shape" that will kill you, not just the color.

And #1, are you sure there are dogs in your area?

[Raul Duke]

@ spot #1 yes, I'm 100% sure of dogs on that area. Sport #2 is about 2miles northwest of spot #1.
Ive had the farmer tell me he sees dogs there, but I've yet to see one.
Kids: 11 & 13 they both understand that they most sit/lay perfectly still.

Q? How many times a week/month will you visit your hunting spot? I try and mix it , spot #1 first and third week of the month. Spot #2 second and third weeks. Each only once a week.

[trippledigitss]

Dont get discouraged - I think I went out around 15 times before I called in my 1st dog and when I finally did call one in it was at a great place PredatorPro sent me to.    Before that I'd even been out to a spot BIGINNER set me up with that was crawling with coyotes but I couldnt call one in. (those are two real cool dudes right there my friends!  ) Wind was a killer out there though and not much cover either so movement probably got me too.
 
I would say getting a rabbit decoy is an excellent idea. It will help to get them to focus on the decoy - to a fault - and help cover any of your own movement. I use a Quiver Critter - like $30 at Cabelas or online - and I swear by it. I was using it on the 1st dog I called and it didnt notice or care about me no matter how much I moved. I probably could have done jumping jacks! Seriously, I've called in more than one coyote that has busted me but still came in knowing I was right there watching it - even after spooking off - cuz it wanted that rabbit!
 
And keep calling. I will stop calling once I see them and watch what they do. Sometimes stopping peaks the interest and so they will keeping coming in to investigate. But I've also seen them hold up and/or lose interest when I've stopped calling. So I think its better to 'over-call' than it is to 'under-call'. Howling is a whole different ball game if you ask me. I think you can easily spook one off instead of calling it in, especially younger dogs, so distress calls are better for beginners. A lot of times they will not respond to howls vocally but will come in very carefully to investigate. I switch my calls all the time if I get no response and have called them in after 4-5 different call types and 45min.
 
And like already said above - wind is important too. You may get a stupid/hungry one that will come in downwind of you but not often. I dont think cover scents work worth a darn, they know something smells 'fishy' no matter what - if you ask me. So staying downwind of them is your best bet.
 
Keep at it - keep your eyes open, be patient and dont give up. And even if you are ready to quit your stand keep your eyes peeled and be ready to shoot when you get up to leave, they may be sitting there watching you and you didnt see them.    Good luck!

[Raul Duke]

how far apart should each stand be?

[Special T]

When i hunt the Basin I see more yotes in the morning than evening.  Find a hay farmer and find out when they are going to cut hay. Sit on that in the evening.. A mouse squeeker is all you need. Might be hard finding a lot of hay farmers tho.... They are all growing CORN!