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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2011, 08:03:14 PM »
I started this post to see what people thought about the expandible broadheads, and I was sure most would be for them! I very suprised to find that its (so far) the other way around. Thanks for the input.
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2011, 08:25:23 PM »
I have no issues with making them leagle. I will never shoot them. If parts move there is a chance for things to go wrong. There is alot to have go right the way it is when you release an arrow. As far as expandibles being more accurate there is a few fixed blade broadheads that fly close enouf to field points to cancel that argument.
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2011, 08:43:45 PM »
It won't matter to me if they legalize them.  I will still use fixed blade heads (slick trick).

The only pro I can see to mechanical broadheads is the larger cutting diameter, which comes at the expense of durability.  I will take durability/penetration over a large cutting diameter.  I can't think of a shot where the larger blades would have lead to a "deader" elk. :dunno:

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2011, 08:55:07 PM »

Would those of you that support using mechanicals still support them if it meant archery seasons were shortened?

 Why is it, in these discussions about archery gear, that someone always has to bring this into it. WDFW has never shortened seasons in lieu of, or in exchange for modernization of gear, nor have they ever suggested it would happen.

 Lets keep to the facts and refrain from the fear mongering shall we. :twocents:

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2011, 09:46:41 PM »
I would shoot them if they were legal.  Less tunning involved.  I do shoot the Montec G3 as they are a good blade, but have praticed quite a bit with expandables for fun on targets.  They fly like a target tip, less drag and expand to cut a large hole which from what I have viewed and read up on can bleed an animal out very quick.  An easier blood trail for those that lack the tracking experience.  I see a lot of them out in the field.  As mentioned prior, a proficiency course should be administered to those that take up archery.  Less animals would be loss.
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2011, 09:58:28 PM »

Would those of you that support using mechanicals still support them if it meant archery seasons were shortened?

 Why is it, in these discussions about archery gear, that someone always has to bring this into it. WDFW has never shortened seasons in lieu of, or in exchange for modernization of gear, nor have they ever suggested it would happen.

 Lets keep to the facts and refrain from the fear mongering shall we. :twocents:

I don't see it as fear mongering at all, just a valid question in the bigger picture of archery seasons. With resource allocation and improved technology being introduced/lobbied for in archery seasons in Washington, such as a mechanical broad heads could have an impact on the number of animals harvested therefore affecting the season setting process in the future if it leads to an increase harvest by archers.


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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2011, 10:07:21 PM »
The season is there for the challenge that an archer faces. Using a mechanical broadhead is like putting a scope on a muzzy

 if you cant make an ethical shot without a crutch, put the bow down please... :twocents: fixed bladed broadheads are more than enough
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2011, 10:09:38 PM »
I don't know why we can't use them.  But the thing is if you know how to shoot a bow and know where you are hitting with your bow, the fixed blade broadheads are enough to get the job done everytime. 

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2011, 10:11:58 PM »
exactly. There is not a whole lot of difference between a crossbow and a compound besides the self-holding capabilities. I mean where does the line get drawn? I think archery is modern enough 
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2011, 10:14:04 PM »
The one complaint I would make is that rifle hunters have dozens of choices for the projectile that leaves their weapon, archers should have that same right

Archers have literally HUNDREDS of choices, If you only shop at Walmart, you might be limited, but really, there are an unlimited amount of choices out there..
personally I use wood, but the choices are, Port Orford Cedar, Douglas Fir,  Ash, Chundoo (Sitka Spruce), Norway pine, Ramin, Birch, Maple, Yellow Cedar , Laminated Cedar or Pine, then there is  aluminum and various carbon varieties....
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2011, 11:47:28 PM »
i am kind of impartial to using mechanical broadheads...i think some people like them more for the fact that even if they have a bad shot on an animal, they still have a 4 inch hole in them. i would be more in favor of tracer or illuminocks for the fact that if i miss, i have a better chance at recovering my arrow. shooting a .30 cent bullet is different than a 15 to 20 dollar arrow setup.

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2011, 12:04:38 AM »
If your broadheads aren't hitting where your fieldtips are something aint right with your set-up. By going to a mech to mask that problem you are losing even more penetration on top of what you lose with the mech bh.

For you guys saying there should be a proficiency course required for bowhunting what do you propose? Like I said before shooting a dot on a flat range is a lot different that taking a shot at an animal when you have that adrenaline dump. Hell, to qualify for master hunter you have to be proficient at 10 20 30 yards with a bow. Don't get much easier that that imo. :twocents:
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2011, 01:19:32 AM »
I believe our humble hosts (Bear Paw) signature bears reference here: Americans are systematically advocating, legislating, and voting away each others rights. Support all user groups and quit losing opportunity.

I don't have a desire to use mechanical broad heads but it isn't my issue to create more division in the hunting community. If you want your expanding broadheads then by all means...

Shame on those of you who call yourselves conservatives and howl for such a ban. Even more shame on those of you rifle hunters who would support a ban on a certain piece of archery equipment when you yourself don't even bow hunt!  :bash:

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2011, 06:53:05 AM »
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2011, 12:28:03 PM »
are mechanical heads legal to use in modern season if hunting with a bow?  you can use muzzleloaders with 209 ignition and scopes...

 


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