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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2011, 12:50:40 PM »
Nope, not legal anytime.
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2011, 01:01:17 PM »
As said, not legal in any season.
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2011, 01:03:01 PM »
I would vote no for big game and yes for turkeys. Archery is suppose to be a big challenge. That's why you guys get a month to hunt and first chance at the bucks. You shouldn't need mechanical broad heads too. How about the game department just round the bucks up in a small fenced area for you as well? Or would you want them to leash the bucks up to the fence too? Keep it a challenge guys. You should be happy you can use all the nice fancy compund bows out there. You should be using a recurve like the old days. All the crap out there for bows that you can use in the state along with the nice early long season isn't good enough for you? If not then switch to muzzy or rifle. I hate to be mean about it and sorry if I offend anybody but good lord how greedy do you need to be? I modern firearm hunt for deer. Next year I'll most likely be archery hunting. And I'll have a compound bow like the rest of you and I'll be thrilled to use fixed arrows because of how they work and I'll know that if a buck gets away then it's because of me. Not the gear I have. Nuff said. The only thing I wish the law would change just a little. Is the electronics on a bow not being legal. I wish they would change that to where it is legal to have a video camera mounted on your bow. When they made the law I don't think they hought of that ever being a possibility.

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2011, 01:07:39 PM »
A few problems your statements. A camera could have a light. Any electronics opens the door for problems. Also, how is a mechanical like leashing a deer or putting it in a pen? I don't understand what greed has to do with wanting more choices for the killing end of the arrow. You don't limit rilfe hunters to tipped/solid/open/boattail/whatever bullets. Your statement seems a bit rambling and unfounded.

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2011, 01:12:30 PM »
the point is you guys are trying to make bow hunting easier and easier. Leave it a challenge like it's meant to be.

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2011, 01:14:03 PM »
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2011, 01:33:33 PM »
It really makes me wonder how much some people actually research and know about subjects before they open their mouths or in this case type their thoughts.  I know a s&*& storm will probably be started by this comment.  But there has been comments about making it easier with expanding broadheads, its not challenging enough, they will cause loss of game, and so on and so on.  First off, the comparison to rifle hunting is WAY OFF.  Anyone, and I do mean ANYONE, from a 5 yr old to an 90 yr old can sit back with a rifle and pick off any game they want from a couple hundred yards.  Typical bowhunting is 50 yards or less, in my experience anyways.  You have to have a little more skill, not necessarily in shooting, but in stalking, reading the animals activity and such.  As for the loss of game, where is the proof?  If loss of game due to broadhead performance and reliability is a factor, why are they permitted in other states?  Why have they been such a hit and are being perferred everywhere else?
Some might say that they are not traditional and shouldn't be allowed.  Well that is fine with me as long as we make it EQUAL across the board.  We can make archery strictly use traditional equipment as long as modern rifle is strictly traditional also.  That means NO SCOPES and most importantly we can go back to the original calibers - 22LR, 44, and 45LC.  Or hell with it, we can go all the way back to muzzleloaders only. 
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2011, 01:36:59 PM »
I still don't understand how the killing end, bullet or broadhead, makes hunting "easier"???

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2011, 01:39:14 PM »
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2011, 01:43:16 PM »
I would vote no for big game and yes for turkeys. Archery is suppose to be a big challenge. That's why you guys get a month to hunt and first chance at the bucks. You shouldn't need mechanical broad heads too. How about the game department just round the bucks up in a small fenced area for you as well? Or would you want them to leash the bucks up to the fence too? Keep it a challenge guys. You should be happy you can use all the nice fancy compund bows out there. You should be using a recurve like the old days. All the crap out there for bows that you can use in the state along with the nice early long season isn't good enough for you? If not then switch to muzzy or rifle. I hate to be mean about it and sorry if I offend anybody but good lord how greedy do you need to be? I modern firearm hunt for deer. Next year I'll most likely be archery hunting. And I'll have a compound bow like the rest of you and I'll be thrilled to use fixed arrows because of how they work and I'll know that if a buck gets away then it's because of me. Not the gear I have. Nuff said. The only thing I wish the law would change just a little. Is the electronics on a bow not being legal. I wish they would change that to where it is legal to have a video camera mounted on your bow. When they made the law I don't think they hought of that ever being a possibility.

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2011, 02:11:20 PM »
I don't believe expandables increase an arrows effectiveness on big game. Some expandables may even be less effective on quartering shots. I also don't believe they should be illegal even though I will never use them and I could have in Montana. For the release shooter tuning a bow is really not that difficult. Adjust the tiller on the limbs and use a bow square to set the nock and a tool to get the rest centered and you have a place to start. I found a cut on contact three blade fixed about 10 years ago that I have confidence in and will probably never change. I have no idea why Luminocks are illegal but I would not use them because I don't want any extra weight on that end of my arrow.
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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2011, 03:29:12 PM »
I would vote no for big game and yes for turkeys. Archery is suppose to be a big challenge. That's why you guys get a month to hunt and first chance at the bucks. You shouldn't need mechanical broad heads too. How about the game department just round the bucks up in a small fenced area for you as well? Or would you want them to leash the bucks up to the fence too? Keep it a challenge guys. You should be happy you can use all the nice fancy compund bows out there. You should be using a recurve like the old days. All the crap out there for bows that you can use in the state along with the nice early long season isn't good enough for you? If not then switch to muzzy or rifle. I hate to be mean about it and sorry if I offend anybody but good lord how greedy do you need to be? I modern firearm hunt for deer. Next year I'll most likely be archery hunting. And I'll have a compound bow like the rest of you and I'll be thrilled to use fixed arrows because of how they work and I'll know that if a buck gets away then it's because of me. Not the gear I have. Nuff said. The only thing I wish the law would change just a little. Is the electronics on a bow not being legal. I wish they would change that to where it is legal to have a video camera mounted on your bow. When they made the law I don't think they hought of that ever being a possibility.
yeah bud join the bowhunters ...it takes more skill to harvest with a bow than a rifle .. I get tired of everyone complaining about the seasons .. and being a bowhunter religiously for 30 yrs I am rifle hunting this year just because most of the rut has taken place before the late bow season opens and If I can get a permit their will be big blacktail going down !!! actually pumped over it !! :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2011, 03:34:45 PM »
actually I have not SQUEEZED a trigger on a deer in so long It should feel good to end the drama in seconds ... All I will miss tracking that critter to his death bed for sure but with a rifle it will end quickly with one shot to the neck with the old .270 ..hahahahaha  :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2011, 03:37:11 PM »
I would vote no for big game and yes for turkeys. Archery is suppose to be a big challenge. That's why you guys get a month to hunt and first chance at the bucks. You shouldn't need mechanical broad heads too. How about the game department just round the bucks up in a small fenced area for you as well? Or would you want them to leash the bucks up to the fence too? Keep it a challenge guys. You should be happy you can use all the nice fancy compund bows out there. You should be using a recurve like the old days. All the crap out there for bows that you can
use in the state along with the nice early long season isn't good enough for you? If not then switch to muzzy or rifle. I hate to be mean about it
and sorry if I offend anybody but good lord how greedy do you need to be? I modern firearm hunt for deer. Next year I'll most likely be archery hunting. And I'll have a compound bow like the rest of you and I'll be thrilled to use fixed arrows because of how they work and I'll know that if a buck gets away then it's because of me. Not the gear I have. Nuff said. The only thing I wish the law would change just a little. Is the electronics on a bow not being legal. I wish they would change that to where it is legal to have a video camera mounted on your bow. When they made the law I don't think they hought of that ever being a possibility.

Are the mechanical broadheads your talking about heat seeking?! Where do I get these, that would be easy!!

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Re: I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game!
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2011, 03:41:34 PM »
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I hate to be mean about it and sorry if I offend anybody but good lord how greedy do you need to be?

I sincere apology doesn't have the word "but" after it...... ;)

This debate will never end.  Everyone thinks everyone else has an advantage and therefore it's not fair.  How about this.....what makes it fair is that we all have the choice to pick a weapon.  The use of expandable broadheads in my opinion is a "where do you draw the line" on a "primitive weapon" question.  Some states have scoped muzzleloaders with a closed breech.  Where do you draw the line?  You can watch hunting shows where they brag about 1000+ yard shots...is that unfair?  What about scent killer, gps, binos, range finders etc.  While I think this topic can be interesting to discuss, the all to common mud slinging and separation or division within the hunting community sucks.
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