Putting one in the chest

[MP123]

what do you mean, your dad had an elk head on with him?

He means the elk was head on or facing directly towards his dad so he didn't have a good shot.

Or maybe his dad was wearing an Elk Head too 

[WA hunter14]

haha thats what i was wandering too

[DoubleJ]

what do you mean, your dad had an elk head on with him?

He means the elk was head on or facing directly towards his dad so he didn't have a good shot.

This.  We were in a brush pile, basically, and in comes a bull, coming to a cow call.  I was 8 or 9 and it was just us.  He didn't have a caller to run the bull past him, so he did the best he could.  I hadn't even started calling at that age so, I couldn't call for him.  Main reason I've had my 9 year old practicing for 2 years now.

[alwinearcher]

Under 10 yards I will take a frontal shot on a elk..
Like someone said though, not many people practice at extremely close yardages. At 3 yards you need to be using your 60 or 70 yard pin, not your 20 pin.

[jechicdr]

At 3 yards, I would change my form and just aim down the arrow...the arrow drop at 3 yards would be negligible.  At 10 yards, usually the range I'm shooting a grouse for supper when I'm elk hunting, I put my 20 yard pin on its feet to take off its head.

[jstone]

We where in the entiat hunting. My buddy shot a buck straight on at about 5 yards. Punched him in the chest. Blood every were. The buck walked straight up the ridge a couple hundred yards then vanished. That's one tuff deer. Had to bleed out. Went up hill not down. That close MAYBE

[coldsteel3d]

My cousin has shot two bulls while we've been hunting in the chest, one at 4 yards and one a 6 yards, neither bull went more than 40 yards and there was lots of blood. One was a huge bodied rosie 6x6, largest bodied bull I've seen on the ground, and one was a typical sized rosie, 5x5 raghorn.

[D-Rock425]

I've seen it done on deer twice and both times the results were not good. 

[carpsniperg2]

I have shot one strait on at 28 yards. Went less then 20 yards and was stone dead.

At 3 yards, I would change my form and just aim down the arrow...the arrow drop at 3 yards would be negligible.  At 10 yards, usually the range I'm shooting a grouse for supper when I'm elk hunting, I put my 20 yard pin on its feet to take off its head.

  In 09 I shot my elk when it ran by me at 5-6 yards. My instictive shooting took over and the old xforce got turned like one of my recurves or bowfishing bows No sights needed for that shot

[BOWHUNTER45]

hahaha ya thats a tough call .. just depends on your ability to put the arrow dead center.. 2 or 3 inches right or left could mean wounded animal but if you can make that shot its all over.. I shot a couple critters head on and it was a serious blood bath and do not recall any going to far ...

[Alan K]

Was with one of the hunting partners 3-4 years back in the Skookumchuck and we had a bunch of elk shoved right to us.  Heard them coming from a mile away and all the sudden the tear over the next ridge over and come right on top of us.  We were crouched down in the 3' sword ferns and the lead cow didn't spot us until she was about 5 yards.  Buddy was already at full draw and he burried an arrow in her chest.  The body sucked up the whole arrow but didn't come out the back.  She whirled and went about 25 yards or so up the gentle ridge, got wobbly, and tipped over.  Down in sight, it was awesome. 

I don't think there is any problem with the shot at close ranges.  The main problem I see with the shot though is you are generally only going to get one hole, and if the arrow doesnt penetrate all the way or break off, that arrow is partially plugging the one hole, leading to a potentially weak blood trail if it somehow gets through there without tearing up the vitals too bad.

 

Under 10 yards I will take a frontal shot on a elk..
Like someone said though, not many people practice at extremely close yardages. At 3 yards you need to be using your 60 or 70 yard pin, not your 20 pin.

Are you sure? We used to try and thread our arrows through the flipped up tabs on pop cans at <10 yards when we started getting low on light while practicing over the summer and I remember putting my 20 on the bottom of the can to do it. Had I put my 60/70 on it it would have been way high I'm pretty sure. 

[Button Nubbs]

Was with one of the hunting partners 3-4 years back in the Skookumchuck and we had a bunch of elk shoved right to us.  Heard them coming from a mile away and all the sudden the tear over the next ridge over and come right on top of us.  We were crouched down in the 3' sword ferns and the lead cow didn't spot us until she was about 5 yards.  Buddy was already at full draw and he burried an arrow in her chest.  The body sucked up the whole arrow but didn't come out the back.  She whirled and went about 25 yards or so up the gentle ridge, got wobbly, and tipped over.  Down in sight, it was awesome. 

I don't think there is any problem with the shot at close ranges.  The main problem I see with the shot though is you are generally only going to get one hole, and if the arrow doesnt penetrate all the way or break off, that arrow is partially plugging the one hole, leading to a potentially weak blood trail if it somehow gets through there without tearing up the vitals too bad.

 

Under 10 yards I will take a frontal shot on a elk..
Like someone said though, not many people practice at extremely close yardages. At 3 yards you need to be using your 60 or 70 yard pin, not your 20 pin.

Are you sure? We used to try and thread our arrows through the flipped up tabs on pop cans at <10 yards when we started getting low on light while practicing over the summer and I remember putting my 20 on the bottom of the can to do it. Had I put my 60/70 on it it would have been way high I'm pretty sure. 

at extreme close ranges i use my 50 or 60 depending on which bow im shooting. think about it arrows arch pretty much from the time the leave the bow to the time they hit their target or the dirt at extremely close range your arrow has not topped out its arch yet, causing your arrow to hit lower than your 20 pin. most bows now days top out at 17ish-23ish yards now days.

[Lowedog]

I shoot in my garage all the time at a distance of around 10 feet.  I use my 50 yard at that range. 

[Alan K]

After being baffled at first about it, I had to get some explaining!  Found this thread, it explains it fairly well.

http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=596278

It's no different than a rifle (don't know why I didn't realize it at first  ), the arc is just a lot shorter than that of a rifle. Duh.

[sebek556]

The biggest things I see on this issue is one, your bow set up. How much confidence do you have in your own personal set up? When buying my new set up ( first time in ten years had to buy wife and kids set ups first so finally  I get mine hehehe) I shot every new top of the line bow on the market to see what fit me the best and did what I wanted.Now I am testing my pentration and speed with it so I will know what shots I can take with out worry. Two arrow weight lighter arrow is faster but a heavy arrow has more kinetic energy and more "knock down power". three Practice practice practice, which is why I love small game, you get to bring the kids,wife, or who ever and you can practice real world shooting at many ranges, on small target which a broadhead or small game broadhead is a clean lethal hit almost anywhere on them so you don't need to worry about wounding game.