What is your Bow's arrow speed and KE

[Lowedog]

Hard to use a blanket statement like that.  Using "traditional" or modern gear has nothing to do with how much one practices or knows their limitations. 

[Little Dave]

Not sure what the specifics are.  Using my primary and shooting the block with field points they will stop with the points about two or three inches out the opposite side.  Apparently its more than enough to take an elk at 30 yards.  Turkey hunting on Saturday I had a nice bull elk in velvet at 15 yards.  Can't wait.

[vaz,,66]

Hard to use a blanket statement like that.  Using "traditional" or modern gear has nothing to do with how much one practices or knows their limitations. 

Blanket or not but have you see trads taking shot beyond 30-40 yards?

[Lowedog]

Hard to use a blanket statement like that.  Using "traditional" or modern gear has nothing to do with how much one practices or knows their limitations. 

Blanket or not but have you see trads taking shot beyond 30-40 yards?

Yes, I have. 

[Elknut1]

  Yes, there are guys that can take deer & elk sized critters in the 40yd range! You have to realize that it's not the choice of equipment used here that is the issue! A longbow or recurve in the 55# draw wt. range with a 500+ grain arrow can easily take elk out to 60yds & more, it's got the umph to do it even with 3-bladed heads. The issue is at those longer distances that trad guys rarely ever use sights on their bows or peep sights so one could have that luxury. It's mostly all instinctive & that's tough to master over 40yds consistently! KE is needed but momentum is where the penetration is derived from!

  Elk can be taken all day long with 35# of KE but I too prefer more when using a compound because I can! (grin)

  ElkNut1

[pianoman9701]

Hoyt Turbo Hawk - 65 lbs and 310 FPS

[str8meat]

bowtech extreme vft 84 lbs. 440 gr arrow doing 319 fps. 102 lbs i think is what i figured last time

[lilswab]

LimbSaver Proton @ 67lbs, 27.5" draw
Victory VForce arrows with 100grain tips @ 271fps, total weight 407grains

KE= 66.4 lbs, That will kill anything!  2 deer and 1 elk last year.

[sneakyjake]

Good thread.  I kind of got my panties in a bunch after I shot a big bull at 35yards last year and felt like the arrow just kind of tickled the animal.  I haven't thought about my setup for a while.  The bow is a ten year old Q2.   The bow shop can't seem to get it above a 65#  pull anymore.  I added it all up and came out to 65KE.  I had been wondering if I should use 125 gr broadheads instead of 100.  After working the formula a few ways, I feel more confident about my set up.  Just need to keep shooting and work on shot placement.  Does anyone here shoot a 2 blade from their compound?  I was going to borrow some from my dad and see how they group.  I believe it is the final part of the penetration equation.

[vaz,,66]

[quoteQuote
Hard to use a blanket statement like that.  Using "traditional" or modern gear has nothing to do with how much one practices or knows their limitations. 

Blanket or not but have you see trads taking shot beyond 30-40 yards?

Yes, I have.
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I'm sure you did most likely at the rang probably, did you see some one was trying to take elk or deer
beyond 40 yards with trad bow? I don't think so, but for a compound bow shooters its pretty common.
Here is my explanation to that blanket statement ;
If you like to be successful with trad bow you have to stay in a good shape why?
because they don't use sight, release aid, stabilizer, arrow rest and so on and on....
we WHO ( i personally use compound bow as well ) shoots compound bow we have a huge advantage with a speed,sight,release aid,and on and on..............
I can take a brake for 3 month and then pick up my bow and shoot 6in group at 30 yard with out any trouble at all, please note its not because I'm good but due to my bow and accessorise, to shoot the same group at 40-60 yard not enough to have a good bow you need to practice.
Most game usually been taken under 40 yards, see this make some ppl been lazy and not practise enough but when the opportunity will be present to take a long shot they will take it due to high speed bow and nice equipment. I'm not saying that every one WHO shoots compound bow that they are lazy and don't practise no just some. Guys with trad equipment its a deferment crowd in my opinion, they use it not because they been forced but because they like it, they like challenge, and if you like it you will use any chance to go and shoot.

[Button Nubbs]

Sneakyjake I shoot 4 blade magnus stingers and buzzcutts. They are basically a 2 blade with bleeder blades. They fly great

[MattySuto]

PSE Stinger 62 lbs 258 fps... 340 arrows with 100g tips.... but switching to 400 arrows an 75g tips.... shot 265 fps and alot flatter....

[Sliverslinger]

Bowtech Destroyer 340 66lbs, 30.5", 425 grn arrow @308fps gets me 90ke. Thinking about switching to my 500 gn arrows @ around 280 for the extra momentum this year for elk. Gives a little more confidence in penetration and the drop isn't too much of a difference.

[Lowedog]

[quoteQuote
Hard to use a blanket statement like that.  Using "traditional" or modern gear has nothing to do with how much one practices or knows their limitations. 

Blanket or not but have you see trads taking shot beyond 30-40 yards?

Yes, I have.
]

I'm sure you did most likely at the rang probably, did you see some one was trying to take elk or deer
beyond 40 yards with trad bow? I don't think so, but for a compound bow shooters its pretty common.
Here is my explanation to that blanket statement ;
If you like to be successful with trad bow you have to stay in a good shape why?
because they don't use sight, release aid, stabilizer, arrow rest and so on and on....
we WHO ( i personally use compound bow as well ) shoots compound bow we have a huge advantage with a speed,sight,release aid,and on and on..............
I can take a brake for 3 month and then pick up my bow and shoot 6in group at 30 yard with out any trouble at all, please note its not because I'm good but due to my bow and accessorise, to shoot the same group at 40-60 yard not enough to have a good bow you need to practice.
Most game usually been taken under 40 yards, see this make some ppl been lazy and not practise enough but when the opportunity will be present to take a long shot they will take it due to high speed bow and nice equipment. I'm not saying that every one WHO shoots compound bow that they are lazy and don't practise no just some. Guys with trad equipment its a deferment crowd in my opinion, they use it not because they been forced but because they like it, they like challenge, and if you like it you will use any chance to go and shoot.

[/quote]

Nonsense.  I actually own 3 recurves and have built a few myself.  I shoot them a few times a year and even hunt with them occasionally.  In a short amount of time after not shooting them for awhile I can be proficient enough to hunt.  So called traditional archers are no better than any other archer.  There are guys who hunt with "traditional" gear who don't pick up a bow until the week before the season too. 

And yes, I have actually watched guys with "traditional" bows take shots at animals that they shouldn't have just like I have watched guys with compounds do the same thing.  I personally have taken shots that in hindsight I know I shouldn't have.   Luckily I had clean misses on those shots and learned something from it. 

[jstone]

Z7 29.5 draw... 70 lbs....425 grain arrow.. How much? I dont know the FPS