you ALL need a discover pass for ALL DNR land.

[bigtex]

I think the beaches are under the jurisdiction of state parks, but you don't need the Discover pass.

Here is the thing about beaches and this law. Coastal beaches are owned by WA St Parks but are not an actual State Park. The coastal beaches are classified as the "Seashore Conservation Area".

The Discover Pass bill requires the pass at state parks. Since the Seashore Conservation Area is not a state park it is not needed. Had the bill said the pass was needed at all lands owned by WA St Parks it would be a different story.

[Sumpnneedskillin]

Bigtex, question. 

I went back and re-read the bill.  Section 2 says this:
(7) "Recreation site or lands" means a state park or fish and wildlife conservation sites including water access areas, boat ramps, wildlife areas, parking areas, roads, and trailheads, or department of natural resources developed or designated recreation areas, sites, trailheads, and parking areas.

Is the reason that the bill doesn't apply to the beach is because it says "state park" vs state park lands or state park managed areas?

[DeerThug]

I WILL NOT BUT THE PASS.

 waiting until the next election when McKenna is gov and wil reverse all of the crap  that has happened.

[bigtex]

Bigtex, question. 

I went back and re-read the bill.  Section 2 says this:
(7) "Recreation site or lands" means a state park or fish and wildlife conservation sites including water access areas, boat ramps, wildlife areas, parking areas, roads, and trailheads, or department of natural resources developed or designated recreation areas, sites, trailheads, and parking areas.

Is the reason that the bill doesn't apply to the beach is because it says "state park" vs state park lands or state park managed areas?

Correct

[NW-GSP]

Im going to have to install 5 rear view mirrors in my truck so I can hang all these freaking passes

[OlympicElkJunkie]

I'm totally fine with usage based funding. Let's apply it evenly. For instance, I never ride public transportation, yet I subsidize every mile of those that do use it. Let's scratch that plan and apply usage based funding to public transit. Why pick and choose? It's simply divisive politics and it effectively pits citizens against one another making us easy targets for this garbage because we spend all of our time and energy fighting each other and have nothing left to replace these empty suits with the honorable and dignified among us.

[bradslam]

I dislike the idea of the Discover Pass as much as the next guy and the fact that we need one for each vehicle is a crock , but if people keep voting for Tim Eyman's anti-tax initiatives, then user fees are what we will get.  Let's face it, it takes money to maintain public lands.  There are road and building maintenance costs, construction costs, patrol/enforcement costs, etc.  How exactly we expect to fund those costs?  Magic? 

[Special T]

When properly implemented user fees are the most fair way to tax people. The reason why the Discover pass is a misuse of fee based tax is because it moves money around to the parks department... If it split it up equal or near equal, i would buy it...  Ask people what happened to ORV funds... Or hell ask what happened to "Dedicated" license plate funds for the WDFW. The state will always rob Peter to Pay Paul! They will continue doing so for as long as we let them get away with it!

[elkman54]

This map helped clear up some questions of mine as to where the Discovery Pas would be required on DNR lands. Note that this is a draft and not final.  Hope it helps those who are as confused as I am.  Good luck hunting and be safe.





http://www.dnr.wa.gov/Publications/discover_pass_statewide_dnr_locations.pdf

[whacker1]

bigtex - I don't know if this has been asked, as i just skimmed the thread.  But what is the fine for not having the Discover Pass?

[seth30]

I dislike the idea of the Discover Pass as much as the next guy and the fact that we need one for each vehicle is a crock , but if people keep voting for Tim Eyman's anti-tax initiatives, then user fees are what we will get.  Let's face it, it takes money to maintain public lands.  There are road and building maintenance costs, construction costs, patrol/enforcement costs, etc.  How exactly we expect to fund those costs?  Magic?

where is all the funding going from us purchasing our tags

[whacker1]

I dislike the idea of the Discover Pass as much as the next guy and the fact that we need one for each vehicle is a crock , but if people keep voting for Tim Eyman's anti-tax initiatives, then user fees are what we will get.  Let's face it, it takes money to maintain public lands.  There are road and building maintenance costs, construction costs, patrol/enforcement costs, etc.  How exactly we expect to fund those costs?  Magic?

You forgot entitlement programs & costs of beauracracy

[Machias]

I dislike the idea of the Discover Pass as much as the next guy and the fact that we need one for each vehicle is a crock , but if people keep voting for Tim Eyman's anti-tax initiatives, then user fees are what we will get.  Let's face it, it takes money to maintain public lands.  There are road and building maintenance costs, construction costs, patrol/enforcement costs, etc.  How exactly we expect to fund those costs?  Magic? 

I have to respectfully say    .  It's NOT a revenue problem it's a spending problem.......  SPENDING problem!!!!  Not a Revenue problem.  Stop spending more then you take in, in fact cut out the waste and the     programs and you don't need to raise additional taxes.

[BOWHUNTER45]

when they unlock land that is locked up then I will pay for a pass ...until then come and get me !!!!!

[Machias]

Now this is some 
 
Q. What is the penalty for not having a Discover Pass on my vehicle?
A. The penalty is $99. This penalty is reduced to $59 if an individual provides proof of purchase of the Discover Pass to the court within 15 days after the notice of violation.